What It's All About

Discussion in 'The Late Night Cafe (off-topic)' started by kyheirloomer, Jul 2, 2011.

  1. kyheirloomer

    kyheirloomer

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    Beaches, barbeques, a respite on the lake. However you choose to enjoy the holiday weekend, have a great time.

    But, lest we forget, I thought a little reminder of what it's all about might be in order:

    That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.  




     
     
  2. siduri

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    KY, an american i know, who shall remain nameless, was in the UK on july 4 and was wondering why nobody celebrated it! 
     
  3. ishbel

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    Most of us in the UK have little or no reason to celebrate 4 July!

    Whilst we lost a colony - perhaps we gained an ally?  Or did we?!
     
  4. petemccracken

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    Some are considering repealing the Declaration of Independence and handing the whole thing back /img/vbsmilies/smilies/talker.gif
     
     
  5. ishbel

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    Pete

    We don't want it!

    We have enough problems merely being the USA's poodle - god forbid we take back the 13 colonies!
     
  6. kyheirloomer

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    and was wondering why nobody celebrated it! 

    For the same reason we don't, on this side of the pond, celebrate Guy Fawkes day.

    For those unfamiliar with it, Guy Fawkes was the leader of a plot to blow up both houses of Parliament.

    Nobody seems to know, however, whether they're celebrating that he failed, or that he at least had the guts to try. /img/vbsmilies/smilies/lookaround.gif
     
  7. mezzaluna

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    Chef Talk may, for some, be the first time some of us have "met" people from other countries. I hope the experience is a good one that enables us all to learn more about each other and to gain respect as well. I've had the good fortune to travel to Europe, Canada and some of the Caribbean. I've made a point of using travel to broaden my mind. It surely has broadened my waistline! /img/vbsmilies/smilies/lol.gif
     
  8. indygal

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    While I love my fellow Americans, and I love the ideals that our country was founded on, it is hard for me to celebrate the country the way I used to.  It is no longer ... of the People,   for the People,  or by the People.  It exists for the pleasure and power of the oligarchs in banking and oil.   Anyone else is subject to them in ways they cannot begin to imagine, unless they've studied it a bit.  But of course the media will make that difficult for you to learn. (Owned by the oligarchs as they are).

    Even as I write, the cowards in congress cannot make the hard choices it is going to take to try & reverse our galloping debt.  So we will default, and all those who hold that debt (read Chinese and middle east) are going to be furious with us.   Those entities, might I remind you, have long range nuclear capacity.   I don't know if they'd use it, but look what China did to protesters within their own country.   So labor away people of the USA, give your money to the robber bank barons, and oil barons.  They are cheating you more today than in 2008, and no one will join us to fight it.   Sad, but true.   We need a bit more Jefferson/Jackson/Lincoln in Washington today,  less Hamilton.  But even if the people woke up tomorrow, I don't know if they could stop what is coming.  We need the money that is lining the pockets of the elite to go toward that debt, ... yesterday.

    Oil is going up, the only reason it is down off of $4/gal right now is that the oil industry is deploying a "frog in water" policy.   Progressing along a jagged course, we become accustomed to ever higher energy prices, even as it robs us of money we need for food and other necessities.   We are not allowed to defend our own border, nor do we have the rights to most of our own national resources.  

    So do I celebrate?  No.  Not unless I see a huge swell of interest from the citizens of the failed State, the USA.  If not, then 1984 is just a little bit late arriving.  But I do love what my country was.   It just ins't what it used to be.

    DD

    Isn't THAT cheerful?