Weapons our tools can be considered ?

Discussion in 'Professional Chefs' started by thumper1279, Jan 31, 2014.

  1. thumper1279

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    So I was talking with some people at school today and brought up this subject
    We Cary knife bags and rolls with sharp knives anywhere from pairing knives all the way up to 10 inch and larger chef knifes
    So are we carting ilegal weapons ?
    Like if we get stopped by the cops and they want to check our bags can't they consider a 8 inch chef knife inside a bag considerdd a concealed weapon ?
     
  2. kaiquekuisine

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    Im pretty sure it goes without saying that if you are carrying a chefs jacket in your pack or bag or whatever they will understand the obvious. 

    Now for those unlikely situation ill just give them my jobs number or explain to them why im carrying a knife :p

    Now are they weapons? That depends how they are used. 

    The definition of weapon is : a thing designed or used for inflicting bodily harm or physical damage.

    So technically anything from a fork to a torn apart beer can, if used in an offensive manner can be considered a weapon. 
     
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  3. rambo

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    Weapons?  Sure, the Bruce Lee movie with the famous "chef fight" in the alley...  In most real situations, people are WAY more threatened by your demeanor than anything else.  Baseball players don't get hassled for carrying a bag of bats.  If you are ever in public and sense someone is uncomfortable, just smile big and tell them they're safe unless they're a carrot or an onion!  
     
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  4. vagabond

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    I have been stopped before. Officer asked what was in the roll, I told him what was in there, that I am a chef, and where I worked.

    Turned into a 30 min discussion about food, I think he forgot to give me the speeding ticket for 19 over, was on my way home.



    Most things come down to the Stupid Rule, don't to something stupid and you don't have to worry too much,.
     
  5. notswedishchef

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    Keeping stuff in a saya, edge guard at the least...knife roll or other bag help solve any potential problems.  Did know a kid riding home from work in harvard square with a still bloody (butcher) 12" sabatier hanging out of the basket on his bike........there's so many potential problems there I'll leave it all alone......needless the say, he did have to explain that one to the local PD.

    When I still worked in town and took the train out, I had a crazy drunk asking me what was in the bag.....I told him knives..and he opened his  coat and showed me his makeshift shiv.  I zipped my knife roll open and showed him a 330 yanagaiba.  He shut the F up real fast. 

    It's not a weapon unless you use it in a menacing manner.  Until than, it's a tool.  Just like a hammer, crowbar, or tire iron.
     
  6. kaiquekuisine

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    I once needed to get inside the bank and go through those rotating doors. 

    Alarm went off, and i started getting nervous (my knives were in the backpack), thinking i was going to get cuffed or have my entrance blocked. 

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  7. seabeecook

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    Great point and thanks for the discussion. I've often wondered the same thing. I set my knife roll on the passenger seat next to me in the truck to and from work. I suspect the issue would come down to how you're carrying the knives.

    A peace office may take a different view if your boning knife (Bowie knife, Buck knife or fishing knife, etc.) was tucked under the front seat in the vehicle.
     
  8. dillbert

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    and the TSA is not  going to be amused by any explanation . . .

    I used to do a lot of European business travel - typically in/out of Frankfurt.  BA, at least, has/had staff that would question you while you were waiting to check in.  they had a whole series of questions about your baggage, booze, where you were, weapons and etc.  when they finished they'd put a sticker on the back of your passport and on the luggage.

    so - and you can see this one coming - once upon a time I bought two Wuesthof knives to bring home - an 10" slicer and a 6" paring.  they were packed my bag.  so the prequestioning staff did their usual thing.  the 'old' stickers were still on the passport, and the bag for that matter - so methinks they get a feel for folks that been there done that before.....

    the very nice dude finishes his questions, stickers me up, says have a nice day - when I mentioned:  Dear Sir, you did not ask me if I had any weapons, knives, swords, etc. and in fact I have two knives packed in my bag.  at the time I was able to quote back word-for-word the "normal questioning"

    thought he was gonna' die on the spot.  different stickers, didn't get arrested, whatever . . .
     
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  9. vagabond

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    I've flown to Sweden and back a couple times. sister moved there a few years ago,have always brought my kit. I typically declare it when I check my bag, again telling them my profession and what's in there, and ask if there is a any issue.

    Haven't had the roll searched even once. Now my spices.....that's a little different. :D