TruffleHunter Minced Black Truffle

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  1. dagger

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    I hear truffles are prized and cost big $$$. I have truffle oil both dark and light but never use it cause don't know how. saw this on amazon and again not sure if worth the investment or how to use it. what is the big deal about truffles anyway?

     
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  2. mikelm

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    They impart an intense umami  flavor in tiny quantities.

    They are impossible to cultivate and must be hunted by specially trained dogs or pigs in a very few unique environments

    Almost all the "truffle oils" are artificially flavored and truffle-free.

    A chef friend at Prosecco  in Chicago makes his own with honest-to-God truffles and it is just wonderful.

    Mike
     
  3. millionsknives

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    Synthetic is like gasoline I hate it. Someone said it is like comparing sniffing used panties to sex.

    If I see 'truffled' on a menu it is a red flag

    Actual truffle is great
     
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  4. dagger

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    so is this stuff good or bad? never had one so what their taste close to
     
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  5. ordo

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    Smell it and decide. If it smells bastardy forget it.
     
  6. chefross

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    And on top of that, the infused "fake" stuff loses its' flavor as it sits on the shelf.
     
  7. mikelm

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    C'mon, Dagger-

    If it's "bad" for most people would it be selling for $1500 or so per pound?

    Mike /img/vbsmilies/smilies/wink.gif  
     
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  9. mikelm

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    FF-

    Well, sounds a little too good to be true, but I hope it actually works.  

    Maybe my next pound of truffles will be $16.

    Mike 
     
  10. french fries

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    It works, and has been working for a long time! France's truffle cultures produced about 1,000 tons of truffles per year at the beginning of the last century.  

    Nowadays there are about 20,000 truffle farmers in France. I believe there are also many truffle farms in New Zealand and Australia. 

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truffle#Cultivation

    https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trufficulture
     
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  11. mikelm

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    It works?

    Hows come truffles are still so expensive?

    Mike
     
  12. french fries

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    It still requires a lot of work!
     
  13. mikelm

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    Well, I'm an economist and I don't understand.   It's not a lot of work- it's a lot of waiting until the seedlings mature and begin to host truffles, and then you let your dog/pig dig them up for you.

    If there's literally tons and tons of them I would think the price would be a lot lower.

    Something fishy here.

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    I've found that when someone starts a sentence with "well I'm a ______" they're generally in process of making an ads of themselves.....
     
  15. mikelm

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    No, I'm not an ads...whatever that is... I'm an economist.

    That's probably worse.

    Mike 
     
  16. millionsknives

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    Same reason gingseng is so expensive.  It isn't a farm where you can harvest year after year.  It's a forest and they grow in certain places.

    You can try to spread spores but they may or may not take depending on conditions. You can create ideal conditions by planting a grove or thicket of the right trees.  How long do trees take to grow big enough to provide exactly the right amount of shade and humidity...  And how much does land cost?

    Furthermore, everyone is hunting them.  What's to stop poachers going on your forest land?  A fence? A sign?  In a public forest, others who like to walk around with a dog for fun can pick it clean.  So your time hunting truffles can be totally wasted.  The effort involved in retrieving and digging is what makes it expensive.

    Obviously also the demand far outweighs the supply also driving up the price.