Tortilla troubles

Discussion in 'Food & Cooking' started by fat al, Apr 14, 2006.

  1. fat al

    fat al

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    Ive just made wheat flour Tortillas for the first time and find that soon after dry frying them they become very brittle. Is this me just over cooking them or is there a way of preserving their suppleness. I would like to make a large batch of these and serve them the following day. The recipe I used is:

    250g Plain Flour, 60g of fat (I used margarine) and 125ml warm water - combine, knead for 3 mins, rest for 30mins, roll out and dry fry 20-30 secs each side.

    Cheers & Happy Easter
     
  2. kuan

    kuan Moderator Staff Member

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    How are you storing them?

    I don't have that problem with mine. I eat them immediately. :) You might try using lard, and using slightly more lard vs. water.
     
  3. pete

    pete Moderator Staff Member

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    First of all be careful not to overcook them. I usually just cook them about 20-30 seconds or so on each side like you then stack them, with paper inbetween and covered. The moisture they give off will help keep them moist that way.
     
  4. castironchef

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    I agree that lard may the be the key here. About 20% of the margarine is water, which can be evaporated off. So, you'll end up with less "moisture" than with the equivalent amount of lard.
     
  5. fat al

    fat al

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    Cheers guys, I'll give the lard a go and stack them with paper.
     
  6. even stephen

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    when you cook them for the first time, you need to do it on
    a very very very hot service, very quickly. Also the answer is
    not more fat, its more water.
     
  7. benrias

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    I must admit that as a mexican I have not heard of wheat tortillas but if by wheat you mean flour tortillas instead of corn, then "Even Steven" hit it on the head--less fat, more water. I tend to make my dough/masa a little tacky and just use extra flour on my counter top when rolling them out. I use the fat sparingly. My mom taught me to make it with just a pinch of baking powder, but I make my tortillas both with and without--haven't noticed too much of a difference in taste. And at least for flour tortillas, adding salt adds some good flavor (roughly a teaspoon for every 3cups flour). Two other tips that work for flour tortillas but are not mandatory: 1) melt the lard/fat/shortening first, place in your mixing bowl, and then add the dry ingredients to the hot fat; 2) use very hot tap water and add it slowly to the dry ingredients as you mix it all together by hand. As for preventing them from getting hard, cover your stack of cooked tortillas with a towel immediately after they come off the stove And when you are ready to store them for a day or two, place them in a plastic ziplock bag. All of that together will prevent them from getting brittle. Good luck!
     
  8. even stephen

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    Great advice. My mother in law adds a little baking soda..
    It seems to soften the final product. Another tip is to add
    your fat just until the masa begins to stop sticking to your
    fingers. Flour tortilla are fine for a few things,but,corn tortillas
    are where its at. Anson Mills. S.C. Great corn for masa and
    comes with Kal or Cal. The cooking lime. Am interested in where
    the last posters family is originally from. Have great interest in
    Latin food, especially Mexican. Cheers.
     
  9. fat al

    fat al

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    Cheers again guys for loads of useful advice, its much appreciated.
     
  10. skilletlicker

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    Do you buy whole kernel corn from Anson Mills online. I've been to their site and couldn't figure how to order.

    Any other whole kernel corn suppliers anyone can recommend?

    As to flour tortillas, if I'm not careful to limit the water I have a lot of trouble moving the rolled tortilla to the skillet in one piece. I support the the idea of cooking quickly on high heat, covering with towel, and refrigerating in a sealed plastic bag as soon as cooled.
     
  11. mikelm

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    Any other whole kernel corn suppliers anyone can recommend?

    We like Bob's Red Mill whole grain cornmeal a lot.

    It's available at our local Whole Foods.

    Mike
     
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    Thanks for the recommendation on a brand of cornmeal. I’ll give it a try for cornbread and such, but what I was looking for is the intact, unmilled corn kernel to soak in an alkali solution of water and cal or lime and then grind into fresh masa.
     
  13. even stephen

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    Just call. The owners name is Glenn Roberts. He used to be
    a related classes teacher at J&W in charleston. You
    would probably have to recieve an order cod or send
    a check and yes you can get the whole kernel. If you
    want a good store bought corn tortilla, the best brand
    is "Milagro". But, be sure to open the pack to check for
    mold. They are usually in most mexican stores around the
    south. Great flavor for not being homemade.
     
  14. benrias

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    Whoa...sorry for the long delay even stephen. My family, way back is from Sonora and Chiuaua. But really we are chicano...about three generations of Californians. But the food growing up was amazing and to me the tortialls were the best part!
     
  15. ozel

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    hi,

    I have been trying for quite some time now to end up with soft tortillas (or chapati, roti). I now have a container full of crackers....good crackers.....but crackers

    nevertheless.

    Watched a heck of a lot of YouTube videos (tortillas, chapati, roti) and found some recipies on google.

    The (common) basic recipe is: 2 cups flour, 2 teaspoon baking powder, I teaspoon sea salt, 2 tablespoons olive oil, 3/4 cup warm water.

    I was wanting something not white and without lard. I started with multigrain flour, but am now at "1 cup white+1 cup whole wheat" . I have tried 2T olive oil and

    recently a half cup of extra virgin olive oil. I have tried mixing/kneading dough to a drier-breadlike consistency and recently tried a wet tacky one. I have added the oil to the flour first and mixed before adding and mixing water. I have always let the dough sit covered for around 20 minutes.

    I am using a nice thick bottomed stainless steel pan at a medium heat so it does not burn quickly.

    I can never get the dough to bubble up in the heated pan as in all the YouTube videos. No matter how long I cook them, they dry up to some really nice crackers.....I

    swear, if I ever see those bubbles...I'll have to change my underwear. It seems I have tried everything. A lot of videos use oil instead of lard..... There has got to be

    something I am missing... Please help!!!!

    anxious for some soft tortillas,

    Antonio