too extensive menu?

Discussion in 'Professional Chefs' started by matrunks, Nov 1, 2012.

  1. matrunks


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    hello there, I'm a line cook in a small restaurant that is suppose to be a bistro. We have 4 different menu depending on the day and the service. we are normally 2 in the kitchen on weekdays and two on the week-end in the low season. I was wondering if our menus are maybe too varied. We have 85 seat low-season and 120seat in high season, which gives us about 300 covers every shift.

    The first one is the breakfast menu it has about 140 items, the week lunch menu another 120 main if we don't count the appetizers, the night menus which is about 175 items and then we have the week-end lunch menu which is about half of the week one, no table d'hôte and no appetizer.

    Those menus sometimes add up because the breakfast menus finishes at 3h pm and the lunch one starts at 11h am so for about 4 hours every weekday we have a menu of about 260 mains and I was wondering is it normal to have such a wide menu or is it just us? Thanks

  2. chefwriter


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    A bit more information would help. Based on your description, the menu would be several pages long. Prep alone would be near impossible unless it's all frozen. And you say it's a supposed to be a small bistro with only two cooks.  Something is missing.
  3. matrunks


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    the menus are 6 or 7 pages each, prep does take a long time all vegetable are fresh we get the meat sous vide except sausages and bacon which comes in fresh, sea food and fish are frozen except calamari which is fresh but pre-cut, but we get the poultry and italian sausages fresh.

    We bake muffins and viennoiseries, we make all sauces, cream and soups from scratch.

    The appetiziers are all pre made when we get them which is why I didn't count them we just have to portion them, like the cheese curd.

    We slice our own charcuterie and cheeses.

    anything else missing?

  4. matrunks


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    we are three on the week end and we have two different kitchen too..

    Last edited: Nov 2, 2012
  5. cookers


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    A good menu should be between 5-7 appetizers and 10-15 entrees. I think you ought to go through the menu and choose what 20 items you know sells the best in the list of 200+ and get rid of the rest. From the sounds of it, whomever is in charge doesn't know what they are doing.
  6. left4bread


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    That menu is impossibly impossible.

    "a small restaurant that is suppose to be a bistro", ~300 covers, "the menus are 6 or 7 pages each", ...

    I think you may be taking us for a ride, so to speak.

    Trunks? We're all too old to appreciate the reference.
  7. recky


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    Geez! Are you for real? You must be working 24/7 and then some!!!

    My place is a third of the size of yours, I have three starters and 7-9 mains, soup and salad, all fresh and from scratch, and (being the only chef at the mo) I struggle sometimes...


  8. coup-de-feu


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    Sounds like a nightmare.  

    I know the type of situation you are talking about, I worked in a place with a lunch menu, a dinner menu, a bar menu, and a taco bar.  there were 12 varieies of fish and it was not even promoted as a seafood resto.  There is a class of menu design who's point is to have 500 different items available, like the cheesecake factory restaurant, but it has to be set up to mix and match all the prep for the different plates so that its like the crew is prepping for 50 items not 500.  - like how a mexican or pizza joint does a lot with a little, or how you can quickly bust out hundreds of menu items like soup, stew, salads and entrees out of a reach in and 4 or 6 bain-maries of mother sauce.  Check this menu out:   Nine hundred   menu items out of a hole in the wall with 2 cooks!  Epic.  

    Weather or not your boss has it set up so you are not working yer arss off I don't know, but I think not because There is NO WAY I'd be slicing my own deli in a situation like that.   In a samich shop - okay, in the bistro that you have described its just stupid, its abuse of employes.  How many total hours are spent slicing and cleaning the slicer?  How much more does sliced meat cost?  Not to mention the cost of the slicer and maintences of it, or the space it takes up.  It's probably costing your boss more to work you even harder.

    Weather or not the menu is too extensive depends on how smart its set up.  Are you under major stress?  Can you get all the prep done before service?  Does service flow well with good ticket times?  It can be a fun challenge or it can be pure ulser inducing hell.

    I want to know more about your place.  Is there a menu posted online? 

    Last edited: Nov 2, 2012
  9. coup-de-feu


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    I thought I'd post Shopsin's menu just because it is so over the top.  I can't believe it.  Only two cooks make all this stuff.  Not trying to hijack your thread, Trunks, but since we are on the subject of crazy bistros...

    sliders3 mini cheeseburgers, caramelized onions 10

    add bacon;chili; chipotle; hatch;mac’n cheese; lace potatoes +3 batter fried onions; fried spinach; chorizo + 4 bbq duck + 7

    served on - waffled french fries; whole wheat french toast +3 mini-mac’ncheesepancakes;mapledonuts;potatolatkes+6

    haMburgers 9 deluxe(lettuce, tomato,cheese, any type french fry) 14 {bacon; any cheese; chili; onion fry; chipotle; hatch} + 3; loco moco 15 {mac’ncheese;potatolace;wasabicoleslaw}+4; pattymelt 14

    twin chicken cheeseburgers; twin vegetable cheeseburgers- 12

    n1amarillo-bbq pork,chipotle salsa, jack garlicbread 13 n2 baa- lamb, potato, chickpea curry, sunflower hero 17 n3 brigette-chicken salad, avocado, tomato, garlic bread 13 n4carnivale-duck,sweetpotato,chipotlemayo,cilantro 19 n5choo-lamb sweet spinach tomato, fig cheese bread 17 n6 dang- pork, date, mustard bbq, jack, hero 17 n7done-duckmarmalade,chickenschnitzel,ciabatta21

    n8 cuban-pressed pork, swiss, ham, pickle, mustard 16

    n9 daniel- grilled chicken, beef chili, jack rye toast 15


    n 11 gallant- turkey, bacon, avocado, cranberry mayo 16

    n12 golda- pot roast, cherry gravy, cheddar rye toast 17

    n13 greekboy-grilled lamb, fried onions, feta/tahina 16

    n14 gulf pride-bbq shrimp, avocado, cheddar, garlic 17

    n18 ha-shrimp, cream cheese, bacon, tomato, horseradish 18

    bbQ on a bun 9 (sweet; hot; both)

    pork; brisket; chicken;

    duck; turkey; shrimp

    sandwiches toasted bun r1baconmarmalade 14

    2 beef sloppy joe 8 3chicken salad 10 4chick-fil-a 12 5chorizo,cheddar 10

    6 duck-fil-a 12
    7 falafel burger 9
    8 fried shrimp or chicken 14 9 grilled chicken 15
    10 hoisin duck
    12lamb mint curry 16
    11 panelle (chickpea fritter,ricotta) 12 12 panko duck 15 13sloppyjudah 12
    14 sweet curry(chicken or duck)14 15 vegetable batter fry 11


    t21duck patty melt 16 22 grilled cheese 7

    23bacon, lettuce, tomato 9 24blt, fried red tomato, pimento cheese, ciabatta12 25figs, pimento, gruyere 14 26falafel, pita, tahina 12

    27 peanut butter&jelly 6 28duck breast, crisp, onions mozzarella, rye toast 14

    29roast chicken 10
    30 roast turkey 10
    31 tuna 8; 32tuna melt 11 33mozzarella en carrozza 12

    n19haveit-chicken&shrimpscampionwheatfrenchtoast21 shakes/malteds7

    C beef mushroom barley 13 Dblack bean, hatch chile, lime 15 E bok choy bop 14
    F Brazilian chicken garlic rice 19 G cheese burgers, french fries 22 H chicken’n dumplings 15
    I chicken tortilla avocado 18
    J chorizo poutine 17
    K duck (dark meat) soup 16
    l lamb, potato, mint curry 18
    M oxtail stew 16
    N oyster chowder (white) 18
    o nigerian duck curry 17
    P pea-leek thin dumpling 15
    Q peruvian avocado, shrimp 19
    R quesadilla cabbage 15
    s shrimp gumbo 19
    T tortilla, cheese, avocado 16
    u vegetarian vegetable 14

    (ask for a full soup menu)

    n15 hawaii- fried coconut shrimp, mango bread, spicy slaw 18 n17 highschool- hot turkey, sausage stuffing,gravy,

    cranberry sauce, white bread sandwich 22 n16homeboy-blackenedshrimp,creamycajunslaw 21 n20 home-duck breast, mango chutney, crisp onions 16 n21 IndIanboy -a.lamb mint fig curry, potato lace, peas 22

    b. beef potato curry, carrots, crisp onions & potatoes 21 n22 jewboy -bbq brisket, grilled onions,swiss hero 16 n22 jewgoy -bbq duck, grilled onions,guyere hero 18 n23 jihadboy-beef, pomegranate, tapenade, feta,

    pistachios, tahini dressing, toasted ciabatta 17 n24JOOKBOY-jerk shrimp,mango,okra, olives,feta 18 n25 Ko- chicken tomato creme, brussels, sunflower bread 18 n26 lannister burger-(1/2 sirloin 1/2 bbq brisket or bbq pork) 14 n27 luke’s lunch-a.bbq pork, chili cheese fries, ciabatta 16

    b.lamb, fig curry,chili jack sweet potato fries 19
    n 2 8 M o t h e r & c h i l d r e u n i o n - c h i c k e n & e g g s a l a d , t o a s t 14 n29 Miss Muffet- lamb, curds, waffle fries, gravy 18
    n30 Moby-a.bbQ duck, hatch chile, black bean quesadilla 19

    b. grilled chicken, pecan wild rice jack quesadilla 19 n31 Monte cristo- batter fried turkey, ham, swiss, fruit 18 n32ouch!-pita, lamb vindaloo, feta, crisp onions 18 n33 po’boy - shrimp or oyster, tartar sauce, dressed hero 18 n34 proZack- brisket bbq, hatch , jack, garlic bread 17 n35 rage-blt,hatchguacamole,jalapenocheesehero15 n36 rooster- chicken salad, garlic, cheese avocado 14 n37 ropa vieja- shredded beef, olives, raisins, jalapeno 16 n39 three little pigs-a.hatch bbq pulled pork sliders 16

    b. hatch bbq pulled beef brisket sliders 18
    n40 toy- fried chicken, avocado, chipotle, spinach, naan 17
    n41 turducken- turkey cloud stuffing, duck, chicken 19
    n42 t-rex- turkey reuben with spicy slaw, swiss, rye toast 16 n43 wicked- chicken salad, bacon, avocado, cheese sliders 18 n44 wonk- shrimp, bacon, peppers, creme 21 $26 lunch specials

    batter fried vegetables, etc.

    (with dipping sauce) 11 pickles; bananas; onions, artichokes; brussel sprouts; rutabaga;tapenade; avocado; chorizo; okra, haricot verts; cheese curds; peas; grapefruit, eggplant


    guacamole 7 nachos + beans 9

    1.ducklegÉtouffée,rice shrimp, chorizo fingers

    v1 abel- pumpkin, peanut butter, haroset (dried fruits & nuts) english muffin 15 v2 aha- sweet potato flapjack sandwich with veggie cheeseburger 17
    v3 allyummy- thirty cloves garlic, artichokes, green sauce, pesto ciabatta 16
    v4 black beans, goat cheese, hatch chile, red onions, cilantro,english muffin 14 v5 bronco- fried potato, okra, spinach, peas, mango lime curry 16 kid’s v6 bronx-broccoli mustard greens over falafel latkes, avocado salad 19 food 6 v7 chewy- fried rutabaga, veggie sausage chickpea curried rice 17

    v8 cleopatra-batter fried rutabaga, sunflower bread, butter okra tomato 16 v9 deen- corn & peas potato latkes, dijon gruyere sauce, pecan bread 17 v10 eve- avocado, grilled tomato, cheddar, russian, wheat toast 10
    v11 evermore- bow ties, kasha with fruited gravy over rye toast 12

    v12 extra- panelle, goat cheese, mozzarella, wheat toast, tomato pesto dip 17
    v13 fabo- sweet tomato haricot verts, macaroni’n cheese, corn bread 15
    v14 filégree- tomato okra, artichokes, cheddar gumbo garlic bread 17
    v15 fred-spicy coleslaw, veggie sausage, waffle fries, wheat toast, spinach gravy 16 v16 frog-spinach pine nut bleu cheese, sweet potato fries, 7 grain toast 17 v17greenday- mixed vegetable pumpkin curry over spinach and papadum 14 v18gyron- dates, chunky pistachio butter, spinach, corn bread 14

    v19 hi de ho- fried goat cheese sliders, garlic, mustard greens dip 19
    v20 india- sweet potato poutine, mumbai falafel, naan 19
    v21 Krisp-spinach, bean, avocado,hatch, feta chimichonga 18
    v22 lion- waffle fries, avocado, tomato, salsa, lettuce, grilled cheese ciabatta 14 v23Melanzana-ratatouille, mozzarella, hash browns, pesto garlic bread 18 v24Munch-friedbroccoli,cheddar,chickpeacurry,wheattoast17 vegetable v25 nosher- mixed vegetable chutney, mini potato latkes, rye toast 17 sausages v26 okrahoma- bok choy bop, okra, black beans, scallion, kati naan 16 feta, olives v28 Quisp-turnip, spinach, hatch, ricotta pocket, veggie link gravy 18 12

    v29 rave-pumpkin artichoke, pecan bread pudding, peanut gravy (celery, carrot) 18 v30 sez u- dry sauté haricot verts, vegan sausage, over basmati rice 15
    v31 spin- spinach latke poutine, corn and pumpkin gravy 19
    v32 supplies! - crisp corn quesadillas, tomato, basil mac’n cheese 15

    v33 swedie pie- maple rutabaga, potato, carrots, whole wheat french toast 18 v34 sweet- fried banana & avocado pumpkin peanut bread 17
    v35 taka-falafel latke pancake sandwich, avocado, tahina, lettuce, tomato 16 v36tamalee- cashew, corn, jalapeno tamale, ranchero sauce, cheese 17

    v37 tempty- crisp corn quesadillas, kale, feta, onions, avocado 14
    v38 turnip road- rutabaga, leeks, green peas, spinach 7 grain open face 15 v39wombat- sunflower kernel, dates, cream cheese on whole wheat french toast 16

    vegan (no dairy, no eggs, no meat, no fish) lunch plates vg1acuka- eggplant, tomato, muhammara, garlic whole wheat 15
    vg2 agra-veggie curry rice bowl, potato, okra, peas 16
    vg3 egad- guacamole, waffle fries, wheat toast 11
    vg4 genoa- veggie links, peppers, eggplant, onion, tomato hero 14
    vg5 graveyard stew- many veggie gravy over cubed 7 grain toast 14
    vg6 Kosh-artichokes, sunflower, guacamole, english muffin 15
    vg7 Mazel tov-5 green vegetables peanut curry papadum 15
    vg8 Moxie-pecan,corn wild rice enchiladas, mango salsa 19
    vg9 Music-brussel sprout potato salad, black bean bread17
    vg10noah- irish beans, tomato, onions, spinach, toast 12
    vg11twist- bulghur wheat, veggies, caramelized onion, mint, tahina, naan 17 vg12 victory- eggplant cubes, tomato black lentils, guacamole garlic bread 18

    happy three part vegan lunch trays (sandwich; soup; salad) 21

    beef or veg chili 7/12; pork tamales 4 ea
    quesadillas;tacos al pastor; shrimp,chicken,chorizo

    enchiladas;tamale pie; burrito;special nachos;

    2. jambalaya, rice
    3. pecan chicken wild rice

    cream enchiladas
    4.taco fried chicken,refried

    chimichongas; macacha 15
    with any of these: pork or turkey bacon; brisket; cheese rice, avocadosalad

    shrimp; chili; pork; 3 cheese; duck; chicken; turkey; ribeye steak; beef or vegetarian chili; chorizo; lamb; veggie or pork sausage

    pancaKe & egg Quesadilla 9 bacon or chorizo 11; chickpea curry 13 bbq lamb; duck; or pork spinach potato 16

    Kati rolls (grilled & filled egg coated paratha) 15

    5.roast duck l’orange haricot verts, mango stuffing

    6.patsy’s cashew chicken basmati rice, spinach

    cajun meat loaf, okra gravy, 7.cheese grits,corn bread

    spinach, pea, potato curry; hoisin veggie 8. thai grilled pistachio

    links, ricotta; mango/peach melba; saag chicken, coconut sweet


    these are the only vegan menu items

    broccoli, kale; haricot vert tomato curry

    rice, fried bananas

    stuffed- chocolate, banana; butterscotch; pb&j

    9. moonpie meat loaf, guacamole, pork tamale

    black bean rice

    the ten condiment sandwich 18

    soft-cut hero,garlic, waffle fries,avocado, red onion, lettuce, tomato,cheddar,jack,

    sunflower & poppy seeds,wasabi cole slaw

    I baconorsausage&eggs II bbq pulled pork or beef III jalapeno chorizo IVbutter chicken or duck

    V roast chicken or turkey VI grilled duck or lamb VIIboneless rib eye steak VIII pork or veggie sausage IX chicken or tuna salad

    X fried shrimp or chicken Xichicken or veggie burgers

    A peanut butter, pimento
    B peanut butter, banana
    C pistachio butter, avocado D chickpea curry, spinach
    E mango chutney, potato curry F pumpkin, pistachio
    G eggplant, tapenade
    H black lentil, haricot verts

    1 tomato rice 2 filé gumbo

    3 beans’greens 3

    1 guacamole 2 mescalun

    3 iceberg 3

    10 ebelskivers (cinnamon tossed)

    donuts or donut dots

    glazes- chocolate; vanilla; cinnamon; rum; maple pecan cajeta (goat cheese caramel, crepe)

    fried burrito (pineapple, coconut, raisin) bread pudding (banana; peach; mango)

    pancake burrito-coconut sweet rice +

    pineapple raisin;raspberry peach; strawberry banana

    4 black bean lime 5 chipotle corn

    4 garlic potato 5 spinach

    luke’s faMous ducK gyro 15


    orange julius 6


    red grapefruit 8 drinKs 2.50

    iced tea/icedcoffee apple juice, coke; diet coke; ginger ale; red

    birch beer; hot coffee

    or tea; chocolate milk egg cream 4 brown cow 5 florida squeezed oj 4

    smoothees / slushies 6

    souPs A african green curry



    mocha nutella; vanilla; chocolate; strawberry__ guinness malted 10
    slutty shake; brandy; cake shake;toasted marshmallow


    rice bowl lunch 14 1. two duck legs au jus
    2. chorizo, black beans, hatch 3. veggie links, broccoli saag 4. panko chicken, apple bbq 5. oxtail stew
    6. shrimp parmesan
    7. duck, string beans, sweet

    black bean sauce
    8. veggies, chickpea masala 9. turkey, sage gravy, mire poix 10. brisket tomato chili
    11. bbq pulled pork gumbo

    no parties larger than 4 served; everyone must eat a meal weds-sat 9AM-2PM; sun 10AM - 2 PM we cannot accommodate severe food allergies! 266

    14 Bbeef burrito cheese melt 14

    vegetarian (ovo-lacto) lunch plates vegetarian lunch plates

    french fries {regular; waffle; sweet cinnamon corn chips;

    chips; wedges; skins} 6 cheese; hatch;gravy+3 chili, onion, cheese +5

    tater tots plain or cheddar 11 chorizo;hatch;bacon 14

    tater titties plain or cheddar 9

    jalapeno or corn 12 poutine 10

    (fries, cheese curds, gravy)

    a chorizo 13
    b broccoli saag 14
    c bbq pork or chorizo 15

    Mac’n cheese
    plain 7; hatch 9; shrimp;

    chorizo; bacon; sausage; duck; grilled chicken 12

    6 broccoli saag 7 spinach barley 8 bulghur mint

    6 romaine
    7 tahina slaw 8 yam fries

    plain pancaKes or french toast 8 (1/2 orders 1/2 price + $ 3)

    syMphony 24 poached eggs, bacon marmalade pumpkin cheddar, french toast

    bread pudding french toast 16 jpumpkin, raisin, cinnamon kchocolate chip cornbread lbanana, pecan, brown sugar

    bread & breaKfast sandwiches
    bastard -
    eggs, cornbeef or pastrami hash, cheese ciabatta 15 bingo- fried brussel sprouts, guacamole, jack, tapenade bread 16

    caprij-egg, avocado, tomato chutney, jack, soft quesadilla 16kchimi 19 castle- 3 mini-egg cheeseburgers 14 stp- corn bread egg & cheese 11 Minda- egg whites, turkey bacon, cheddar, english muffin 11
    Mr. softee- eggs & american on a steamed, toasted bun 6 saxelby- eggs, cheddar on toasted ciabatta 8 + bacon 11

    sigh- potato pancake sandwich, egg, cheese, bacon 16
    soft- american cheese egg pocket, large english muffin 9 south pumpkin bbq chicken, cheddar eggs, corn bread 16 str ider-maple veggie sausage, eggs, avocado, english muffin 15 tigerpaws-eggs&cheeseon3buns 8;+bacon 12
    what?- waffle-cake grill cheese, egg 9; macaroni 11; bacon 12 wow-eggs, bacon marmalade, cheddar, ciabatta 15
    fig 10 raisin cinnamon coconut pecan walnut cashew pistachio

    pumpkin 12 chocolate chip butterscotch bacon

    pound cakeft banana blueberry raspberry
    red velvet poppy 14 matzoh brei
    lime mint white chocolate cinnamon apple, raisin chocolate peanut butter lemon or lime ricotta

    apple, pecan, brown sugar 16
    mac’n cheese (chorizo; hatch+3 each ) s’mores (chocolate or butterscotch) peach melba (raspberry-lime), pecan mustard greens,vegan sausage, asiago blueberry lemon ricotta
    brown sugar banana pecan

    s lutty caKes 18
    original (pumpkin, peanut butter, pistachios, cinnamon) iran(banana, pistachio butter, peanuts, brown sugar) M’lady(fig, butterscotch, pecan , poppy cream cheese) egypt (chocolate, peanut butter, marshmallow, banana) tupelo (banana, bacon, peanut butter, brown sugar) Melba(lime, raspberry, peach, bacon cream cheese) Miami(butterscotch pumpkin cakes, peach bbq pork) Quack(apple, cinnamon, raisin, raspberry bbq duck) yolo (cocoa, chocolate chip, sunflower, marshmallow) don ho(macadamia, coconut, pumpkin, date cream cheese) swine blues (bacon, in the batter, blueberry pancakes) Mark trail ( trail mix, banana, chunky pistachio butter)
    eggs & toast 6 cheese in or over 7;poached or egg whites 8 omelets (2 ingredients)10; western12
    MojeMiMa poached eggs stuffed bacon mac’n cheese pancakes 23
    plain 11
    H pancaKe burrito H eggs, rice, cheese, beans 12 (add bacon; duck; pork; beef; chorizo)+5

    french toast sandwiches 15 jfluffernutterkbanana foster peanut butterlnutella-fluff, butterscotch

    mmango foster, pistachio butter nraspberry bbq pork white choc. gravy ochick-fil-a, pecan french toast
    peach melba, whole wheat ft
    three berry pecan leMon ricotta, banana foster

    corn pancaKe lasagna 21
    poached eggs; cubed toast 16 phudi-spinach, broccoli, saag tito-chorizo, jack, cilantro shirley- bacon, lettuce, tomato oleg-bbq pork,hatch chile, onions

    B1ABC-chicken schnitzel, s
    2 ADoBE -egg burrito, coconut pancakes, cranberry salsa 19 3ARTy- artichoke,vegetable frittata, mozzarella, toast 17 4 BAlly- duck curry, black lentil basmati, eggs, papadum 21 5BuBBAj-panko friedshrimp, eggs, grits, corn bread 19

    k-blackenedshrimp,eggs,dirtyrice,cornbread 18 6CAPT’J- fried chicken, eggs, 2 mac’n jack pc 19
    7DIEGo- poached eggs, poutine (curds,fries, gravy) 15 8GoyA-chorizo,whitebeanmarmalade,eggs,toast 17 9IlIANA- mango, avocado, eggs, refried rice, corn chips 13 10 JEwGIRl- open face hot bbq bacon mac’n cheese omelet, rye 16 11 JoE BluE- beef chuck, eggs, onions, spinach, bleu, toast 17 12JuANITA- chili, cheese omelet, pork tamale, toast 16 13JuNIoR - bbq pork, mac’n cheese, eggs, toast 16 14KRAKAToA- eggs, sausage stuffing, potato, lava sauce 17

    15 lEEKy BoATj-fried potato shells, leeks, ricotta, garlic, eggs 16 k-fried potato shells, chili, cheddar, eggs hatch 16

    16 MAGIC-eggs, bacon marmalade, lace potato, toast 17
    17 MAKE ME-bbq pulled duck, mac’n cheese, eggs, toast 19 18 MAINE- mini-blues, eggs, maple cream, english muffin 14 19 MExICAN- tortilla lasagna, chili, eggs, ricotta , cheddar 15 20 MoE-maple bacon pancake sandwich, sunny’s on top 13

    k- maple duck breast, pancake sandwich, sunny’s on top 15 21 Mo’BETTA-maple bacon, egg, mac’n cheese pancake samich 18 22 MoMMy-eggs,porksausage,cinnamonraisinfrenchtoast15 23 MouNT FuJI- poached eggs, steam asian veggie, grits 18
    24 NEssIE-two bacon mac’n cheese pancake nest eggs 19
    25 ovA- poached eggs over bacon cheese grits, toast 14
    26 PIAF- eggs, gruyere sauce, fried onions, toast 14
    27 PIGNEwToN-eggs, grits, pork, fig gravy sandwich 21
    28 RAJ-jvegetable, black lentil, tofu scramble, toast 16
    29 k-tofu, spinach, mustard greens, broccoli, toast 18
    30 RoPE-A-DoPE- duck leg confit, eggs, toast 14
    31 sHAKsHuKA-sizzling peppers, onion, tomato, eggs 16
    32 sINGAPoRE-poached eggs, Kaya toast, soy sauce 11 33sPRINGsTEEN- bacon & cheese flat omelet, toast 12 34soGooD-3dfrenchtoastgrilledcheese,poachedeggs 16
    35 k-3d corn pancake grilled cheese, poached eggs 17
    36 soT-chorizomac,eggs,cornpancake, eggplant lasagna 19
    37 souTH PoRK - eggs, grits, sausage gravy sandwich 16
    38 sQuAw-eggs, bacon, peppers, cheese, toast 15
    39 ToKE- eggs,cheese on 3 bacon, maple glazed donuts 19
    40 TREIF- 3 bbq brisket, jack, onion egg sliders 18
    41 zACKzuKA- sizzling chorizo, eggs, cilantro, peppers 15
    42 zEBRA - egg whites, veggie sausage, black beans, rice 12
    43 zEsTy-3 bbq duck, egg, sliders on mac’n cheese pc 19 44zITo-shrimp scampi mutzi omelet, garlic cheese bread 18
    45 zoRRo-oxtail stew, poached eggs, on banana ft 21

    the petes (this section has spicy garlic bread and a special topping) pete moss- veggie sausage, jack, tomato, scallions 15

    tommy pete - turkey bacon, cheddar, tomato, scallions 15 santana pete-chorizo, hatch, jack,scallions, cilantro 15 pete seager-panko fried shrimp, dill, carrots, scallions 18

    little bo pete- lamb mint curry, tomato, scallions 19 sneaky pete- monterey jack, bacon, tomato, scallions 14

    wiggly pete - pork sausage, jack, scallions, tomato 14 More petes (this section has different breads and toppings)
    blisters on My sisters
    original-sunny’s, cheddar, r ice, beans’ n greens, corn tortillas 9

    add-bacon; shrimp; chicken; duck; ribeye; sausage(pork/veggie/chorizo) +5 indian u-chickpea, potato curry, peas, basmati, papadum, feta 15

    v-spinach, mustard greens, broccoli, basmati, papadum, feta 16 italian- eggs, strozzapreti bolognese, garlic bread, mozzarella 17 chinese- eggs, duck fried rice, crisp pancake, cheddar 19 tijuana- eggs, chipotle, black beans, rice over pork tamales 16 cajun-eggs, hoppin’ john (bacon, gumbo), corn bread 17

    israeli- kasha varnishkes, brisket, rye toast 19
    cali-duck marmalade, mango pecan bread, mozzarella (no rice) 19 ché-chorizo/chipotle enchiladas, jalapeno eggs, cheddar (no rice) 19

    the petes all get 3 poached

    crisp hash, eggs, toast cornbeef; pastrami; chorizo; brisket; white trash chicken; ga bbq pork; bbq pulled duck; turkeycloud; reuben 17 duck(confit or bbq breast);shrimp scampi 19

    ausage gravy, eggs, grits 21
    swee’pea-cornbread,maple bacon,peas,cheddar 14 pedro-chorizo, cilantro, scallions, pork tamales 19

    pete’s sake-batter fried shrimp, pesto garlic bread 19
    peter pan- mango, raspberry bread, corned beef reuben 17 peter lorre-bacon blue cheese bread, hosin duck, scallions 18

    the petes all get 3 poached


    country scraMbles & toast (yolk coated firm egg whites) 7
    fresh MoZZarella, eggs and: m1 corn, roast garlic, jalapeño 14 m2 tomato, basil, eggplant 18
    m3 avocado, brussel sprouts 16 m4 turkey bacon, tomato 18

    m5 veg sausage, peppers, potato 18 m6 fried shrimp creole 19
    m7 chicken cacciatore 17
    m8 spinach, avocado 14

    m9 sausage & fried dough 19
    cs1 corn, cheddar, chorizo 15 cs2 bacon, potato, cheddar 14 cs3 bleu, avocado, spinach 12 cs4bacon, potato, goat cheese 16 cs5 corn, cheddar 9

    cs6hatch, veggie link, pimento16 cs7shrimp, tomato, salsa 17
    cs8 corn, peas, scallions, garlic 15 cs9 fried dough, sausage 17 cs10 macaroni, chorizo, cheese 15
    happy three part breakfast trays 25 h1 s’mores pc; mac’n cheese pc; iran slutty pc
    h2 chorizo mac’n cheese; chocolate pc; banana brown sugar pc

    h3 tupelo slutty; blueberry pecan pc; fried dough, chorizo scrambled h4 mac’ncheesepc;chorizoft;spinachbleueggs
    h5 raspberry pc;walnut,raisin,bread pudding ft; cheddar corn eggs h6 2 sliders; eggs with chorizo & potato; mac’n cheese pc

    h7 Melba slutty; banana foster ft; ham/cheese/eggs
    h8 egg burrito; egypt slutty pc; brown sugar raisin, cashew ft
    h9 chorizo,hatch, mac’n cheese pc; pound cake ft; pork tamale
    h10 chili omelet; bacon mac’n cheese pc, white chocolate poutine
    h11 yolo slutty; tomato chicken curry, rice; chocolate macadamia ft h12 sneaky pete; butterscotch s’mores pc; chocolate ft
    h13 original slutty; duck leg confit; orange bread pudding ft
    h14 2 bobcat sliders; blueberry pc; eggs with peas and swiss
    h15 Quack slutty; banana brown sugar ft; corn & cheddar scrambled h18 bbq pork marmalade, scrambled eggs, toast, pork tamale
    h19 oxtail stew; poached eggs over grits; cinnamon pumpkin raisin pc h20 chicken tomato cream, rice; cinnamon donuts; spinach, blue omelet h21 don ho slutty, chorizo bean stew, eggs, rye toast
    h22oxtail curry over rice; chorizo chili mac; artichoke gruyere omelet h23duck leg confit; spinach blue cheese scrambled; fried bananas
    h24 chicken schnitzel; 3 fried eggs, banana bread pudding ft
    h25 swine blues; chocolate chip corn bread ft; potato chickpea curry

    h26 trail mix pc; egg chimichonga; bbq pulled duck
    h27 eggplant parmagiana, scrambled eggs, hash browns h282 sliders, egg/cheddar stuffed corn bread; s’mores ft h29 bacon, egg/jack stuffed corn bread; iran ft; coconut pc
    pc= pancake ft= french toast

    PlAIN PoTATo lATKEs- 13 cheddar; spinach; hatch; falafel; sweet potato; pumpkin 15; artichoke; brussel sprouts 17; (pastrami;corned beef)reuben 18 ; indian mutton curry 19
    tex-Mex breaKfast
    huevos rancheros -eggs, cheddar, veggies, tortillas 14

    bacon; chorizo; brisket; pulled pork; duck breast 18 chilaQuilles-tortillas,eggs,cabbage14;+chorizoorchicken 17

    Migas- eggs, corn hay, avocado, hatch 14 + chorizo 17 egg nachoes- cheese, beans, tortillas 15
    egg- Quesadilla; beef enchiladas; potato tacos 14 egg burrito- 9; chiMichanga- 14 chorizo + 3 choriZo open oMelet- veggy, cheddar, toast 17 encachuata-eggs, peanut mole enchiladas 18 ZaKstacK- crisp tortillas, eggs, chili, chorizo beans/greens,cheddar, crema, guacamole 21

    veggistaK-crisp tortillas, eggs, broccoli, mustard greens, veggie chili, beans, cheddar, guacamole, hatch chile 23
    stainless breakfast trays with toast 29
    h30 springsteen; lamb gyro, sweet potato fries raspberry lime ricotta pc
    h31 castles; white chocolate macadamia pc, chili mac poutine, guacamole h32 jewish pot roast, kasha varnishkes, eggs, potato latkes
    h33 chicken tonkatsu, coconut sweet rice, eggs, duck marmalade, donuts
    h34 taco fried shrimp, chipotle cheese grits, scrambled eggs, waffle fries h35 duck gyro, bacon blisters on my sisters, chorizo mac’n cheese pc h36 shrimp po’boy, tupelo pc, spinach goat cheese scrambled, corn bread h37 bacon saxelby, duck confit, tijuana blisters, mac’n cheese pc
    h38 potato latkes; pulled bbq duck, banana pound cake ft, eggs, toast h39 glazed brussels, shrimp scampi, slutty pc, spinach blue eggs, toast h40 M’lady pc, iran pc, turkey cloud hash, poached eggs, toast
    h41 egypt pc, butter chicken curry, rice, duck confit, waffle fries, lb. cake ft

    Meat-bacon(pork or turkey); sausagelinks(pork,veggie);chorizo; ham; pork tamale 5; fried shrimp; chicken schnitzel; bbq pork, bbq beef, bbq pulled duck, chicken, (sweet; hot), grilled duck breast, duck leg confit 8

    toast-white; whole wheat; english muffin; rye; papadum; ciabatta;cornbread; naan; pound cake; corn tortillas; whole whole wheat Kaya toast 3; cinnamon raisin white toast 5 potato-(french; waffle; yam)fries; hash browns 5 (butter grilled +2) grits- plain 3; cheese 5; add bacon; shrimp; sausage 5 delta-okra, collards, peppers, celery, hominy, spinach 9 Mexican- chorizo, hatch chile, monterey jack, cilantro 11 usa- ham, butter, carrots, egg, peas, corn, cheddar, garlic 14 bahia-shrimp, artichokes, palm oil, coconut, tapenade, kale 16

    oatmeal 6+ fruit, nuts 8 ashura 10(bulghur,beans rice, fruit, nuts, rose water)

    nshima & ndiwo 12 (corn porridge & greens) 
  10. kuan

    kuan Moderator Staff Member

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    OMG that's like Chinese restaurant big, only in a Chinese restaurant you have 1/10th the ingredients.
  11. petalsandcoco


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    I have never seen a menu like that in my life, a patron can get nauseated  just reading it .This was an interesting line in the menu  :

    "we cannot accommodate severe food allergies!"
  12. purplesalad


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    As everyone suggested, you should reduce the number of items. Even customers would feel overloaded with so many items to choose from. 

    I'd suggest if you really want to try how most of the recipes will be accepted, add a "special menu" or 'today only' list where you rotate some of the items. During the time you'll be able to tell what works best and what should be taken out from the menu entirely.
  13. flipflopgirl


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    Not trying to beat a dead horse here.

    Just IMHO "you can't please all of the people all of the time".

    Maybe your boss could do a market survey and then pare that Webster of a menu down a bit, ;-)

  14. durangojo


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    holy smokes! i am speechless which hardly ever happens....normal you ask? definition, bistro means small restaurant and usually one that serves alcohol, but no matter that for the's your menu size, i don't care how many kitchens you have....the question in my mind is why? it's as if the owner put everything he ever ate or anyone who said they liked something on the menu.. god, how do you even turn over the tables in a timely manner when it takes an hour just to read the menu...i agree with petals, the menu is nauseating. restaurants need to have a 'concept', a mission statement, to be defined....i can just hear someone saying to their friends,"let's go get something ot eat at the thai, mexican, cuban, greek, peruvian, american,cajun, southwest, japanese place...oy! god, the waitstaff must pull their hair out every shift

    how do you even do that menu?(sous vide? elves?)  store all those ingredients and move all that food equally? it's what specials are for! how much waste do you have? where's the kitchen manager? the head chef?...if the menu is the 'brainchild' of the owner then it is up to the kitchen mgr and head chef to re educate him...sooner, rather than is later....the bottom line is does he want to make money or not.....god, i can't even imagine what the kitchen scene must be like on a busy night, or any night for that matter.......

    how long has this place been in business? where is it? geez, what an incredible waste of talent, food and resources......cut,cut, cut and then cut some more! or move on......need scissors? 

  15. kuan

    kuan Moderator Staff Member

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    Here is how to do it. Plot a chart with price on one axis and sales on the other. Get rid of the low sales high cost items.
  16. matrunks


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    I have copy of the menus online but only in french, the lunch menu and the week end one have been updated on paper but not online yet.

     The restaurant has been opened for 15 years but we have a different owner for the last 3 and its not going really well. He keeps adding to the menus, last week he added 20 items on the week-end menu without even asking or telling the chef... He added menus items that we do on the week when the chef is there but on the week end we don't have the time to prep for it.

  17. chefbuba


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    OMFG  /img/vbsmilies/smilies/eek.gif/img/vbsmilies/smilies/drinkbeer.gif/img/vbsmilies/smilies/laser.gif/img/vbsmilies/smilies/chef.gifWhat are they thinking?  Owner adds 20 more items on a whim?
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  18. meezenplaz


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    Chef Meez weighing in ........
    Not sure what you mean by not going really well, but if the restaurant's not doing well

    then the LAST thing to do is add more items to bog down the chefs, give customers

    15 more minutes worth of figuring out what they want which, as Joey said, reduces

    your FOH turnover by a great deal, (though you seem to be serving a lot of people as it is)

    and possibly even increasing food costs.

    Also agree it doesnt sound much like a Bistro, in the usual sense; mefeareth the owner

    hath no clue how to run it, and mistakenly thinks when things slow down, more choices

    will speed it up. Just wait til the holidays hit, and owner pops 20 or 30 new holiday items on

    there. An eventual meltdown is Agent Smith said: "It's inevitable!"

    Yeah, clueless.
  19. chefwriter


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    Thanks for providing more info and the link. After visiting the website and reading the other comments, I'll offer this. Print this thread out if you can and show it to the owner. Explain to him in a professional manner that some changes are in order. i.e. cutting down the menu, having a definite focus, quality over quantity, etc.

    The menu is ridiculous. And from your description of buying practices, you are not working with alot of quality products or utilitzing any professional techniques. If the owner is not willing to make substantial changes, and you are seriously interested in a career as a culinary professional, you should give him your notice immediately.  If you've lasted more than a month in this environment, you should be able to make it in just about any kitchen. You deserve better.
  20. cookers


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    What if they only sold 1 of each 200 items? lol :p