Still History the Origin well a start of marvel cooks

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  1. denis dubiard

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    well got in search because of Radegonde Sainte patron of the cooks?

    well got better! as a matter in fact. we can't have a queen of Frane been a sainte patron of Cooks and others in the industry.

     OK Radegonde was a good one to find and pointed too! but that was a bit too early or too late here what I found for one section has it seam to have 2 Saintes one for male and one for female the following is the femal and it worth the read!

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    Martha of Bethany (Judæo-Aramaic מַרְתָּא Martâ) is a biblical figure described in the Gospels of Luke and John. Together with her siblings Lazarus and Mary, she is described as living in the village of Bethany near Jerusalem. She was witness to Jesus' resurrection of her brother, Lazarus.

    Patronages: butlers; cooks; dietitians; domestic servants; homemakers; hotel-keepers; housemaids; housewives; innkeepers; laundry workers; maids; manservants; servants; servers; single laywomen; travellers; Villajoyosa, (Spain)

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    In the Gospel of Luke, Jesus visits the home of the 2 sisters named Mary and Martha

    The two sisters are contrasted: Martha was "cumbered about many things" while Jesus was their guest, while Mary had chosen "the better part", that of listening to the master's discourse. The name of their village is not recorded, nor any mention of whether Jesus was near Jerusalem:

    As Jesus and his disciples were on their way, he came to a village where a woman named Martha opened her home to him. She had a sister called Mary, who sat at the Lord's feet listening to what he said. But Martha was distracted by all the preparations that had to be made. She came to him and asked, "Lord, don’t you care that my sister has left me to do the work by myself? Tell her to help me!"

    "Martha, Martha," the Lord answered, "you are worried and upset about many things, but only one thing is needed. Mary has chosen what is better, and it will not be taken away from her."

    (That is typicalJ! Poor Martha!)

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    A further legend relates that Martha then went to Tarascon, where a monster, the Tarasque, was a constant threat to the population. Martha managed to tame the monster and eventually died in Tarascon, where she was buried. Her tomb is located in the crypt of the local Collegiate Church. Again, the Golden Legend provides the details:

    There was that time upon the river of Rhone, in a certain wood between Arles and Avignon, a great dragon, half beast and half fish, greater than an ox, longer than an horse, having teeth sharp as a sword, and horned on either side, head like a lion, tail like a serpent, and defended him with two wings on either side, and could not be beaten with cast of stones ne with other armour, and was as strong as twelve lions or bears; which dragon lay hiding and lurking in the river, and perished them that passed by and drowned ships. He came thither by sea from Galicia, and was engendered of Leviathan, which is a serpent of the water and is much wood, and of a beast called Bonacho, that is engendered in Galicia. And when he is pursued he casts out of his belly behind, his ordure, the space of an acre of land on them that follow him, and it is bright as glass, and what it toucheth it burneth as fire. To whom Martha, at the prayer of the people, came into the wood, and found him eating a man. And she cast on him holy water,  and showed to him the cross, which anon was overcome, and standing still as a sheep, she bound him with her own girdle, and then was slain with spears and glaives of the people. The dragon was called of them that dwelled in the country Tarasconus, whereof, in remembrance of him that place is called Tarasconus, which tofore was called Nerluc, and the Black Lake, because there be woods shadowous and black. And there the blessed Martha, by licence of Maximin her master, and of her sister, dwelled and abode in the same place after, and daily occupied in prayers and in fastings, and thereafter assembled and were gathered together a great convent of sisters, and builded a fair church at the honour of the blessed Mary virgin, where she led a hard and a sharp life. She eschewed flesh and all fat meat, eggs, cheese and wine; she ate but once a day. An hundred times a day and an hundred times a night she kneeled down and bowed her knees.

    (Sainte Patron! must go on the search of the other one! Humm the French did cause damage into history, if Radegonde a Queen after reading her story was planted with Fortunat! a Bishop of Poitier as sainte patrons of Cooks Male and Female!.

    lets get the real male one!. read some more stuf which should classified about Radegonde or lets say Radegund (german way! been portraited like a witch which make my primary seach about what happened in monastryies as Sainte Radegonde was living in monastries very true! (sorry personal search about a relative killed by a way only (so call witch) of those time knew. but then whe some got their knowledges to kill such way.!)

    sometime you can find stuff by reading through history! anyone can place it back into prespective and REALITY!> 
     
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  2. denis dubiard

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    the male one Sainte Laurence of Rome!

    that is our man!

    he died on a grill and certainly been eaten that was 258 that is a very very dark Age!.

    and he joked by the sound of it of that part of him been seen beeen grilled alive before it happened!.

    F-ing hell that was the hells kitchen and its history...............................................

     will investigate! had some ugly pictures coming to my mind while reading!.............

    but then another point about it all! the Calice mentioned in its story!

    and that is a big part for a pilage of rome duing an era by the Goth!.

    Rome at the time of 200's to 300's was in decline big time! some treasure that romans got went after some pillages by the Goth (Germaniun Germanic Origin! some of the treasure included the minorha! of Chanuka (pardon my orthgraph!) the calice from the christ (the Grail!) and some writings on paper (Papyrus) ) have to search about that! as Goth (German)  came to the region of where I am right now!. even if the all empire of rome was under pressure with the other side the arabic side (Moores)  (why lentille dishes in spain with pork as it is something degrading for arabic world to eat. and cassoulet in particular paysan food but with an origine!. the moores gave the pork to the slave at that time degrading them. but then you do not degrade a paysan it make it a plus in their feed! but then what a mores knows about how to cook good food with bad! well at the end hat they gave to the up class the paysan they seam t be given to the under class! then they were better off¬!  Oh politics politic from the past! that is bad how a farmer and their taxes and what do they had to eat with records!)

    mixing a past time with a professional side!.

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    as gridiron is a way of cooking like Plancha is a way from parts of region which is part of fashion then in history fashion do play some action  as well as events in histories. your side in US, which is intwine with ours in europe as far back as 0 year or year xx before christ or even year xx after chist!.
     
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  3. highlander01

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    Yup he supposedly made a comment along the lines of "Turn me over for this side is cooked"

    There are several saints for cooks, bakers, confectioners and pastry makers
     
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  4. denis dubiard

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    yep that is true found one about pastry.

    if if I am right about Martha and the dragon NASA should look upon it!

    according to locations!

    and her time of death about n the 60's after death!.

    well all those saints are not all saints.

    some and many have been placed for politic reasons!

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  5. denis dubiard

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    lets show you the master cook!

    me I am nothing!

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  6. denis dubiard

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    that one is just for you!

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    what they call an M9 plus solar flair

    an 1X class solar flair!

    I doubt you understand an aurora borealis or austrealis like I do!......................................
     
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  7. denis dubiard

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    past and futur are intwined!

    they can be placed back upon like a puzzle according to what masters prescribitions

    do you want to find about the following events?

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    something about minerals and events as wll as adaptation!.

    a way of cooking!.............................

    I don't like to travel for miles to the sceen of  the crime for F-all...................................

    I traveled to Arizona smelling some trouble or more some shades in history!

    did found some with a nasa crew from the uni! but under-shadowed! thatnk to the main crew the uni and its lab!

    then other stuff came along!

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    a mineral!

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    a tree turned to mineral!

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    added to others

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    we are talking about solar cooking!.........................

    sorry what it is name again?

    Ah yes Darwin!

    well he was right just 30per cent of it!.

    he nevr met a guy call Bore! why ?

    because he darwin was dead and I doubt he knew about Bore a physician in Atomic!.

    added to it! that fit t place plcade upon 3 dimensional. a thesis upn evolution!.

    How to cook an egg!.

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