Rice Cooker Size

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  1. ghodur

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    i'm so confused! i know I want a medium rice cooker, which is supposed to be a 6 cup machine. However, there seems to be a conflict on what exactly a six cup machine is. do they mean 6 cups of raw rice or 6 cups of cooked rice? I think I want the Zojirushi Micom 3 cup machine  Which I'm assuming makes 6 cups of cooked rice. I have no stores I can go to to actually see this model. Does anyone have this, and does it make 6 cups? i'd like to make the recipes in The Ultimate Rice Cooker Cookbook, most of which call for a 6 cup machine. 
     
  2. michaelga

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    Don't freak out... a cup in the USA is different from a cup in Japan.

    What do you want?

    How many 'servings'?

    Also that cook-book is hella out-dated...don't bother with it.

    If you are cooking for 4 servings....

    NP-HBC10 

    If  you are cooking for 8 servings...

    NP-HBC18

    The rest are in the comercial range.

    Each of these will leave you with some leftover rice... you can leave it on warm or use it in another fashion.
     
  3. ghodur

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    I know about the US/Japan difference. My question is about how much rice that particular rice cooker makes. If it has a capacity of 6 cups that's what I want. I'm going to be cooking whole grains, as well. I'll have to buy online, since no stores here carry it.
     
  4. michaelga

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    Zojirushi products are all measured in 'cups' that are 180ml and they always refer to uncooked rice.  

    (every type of rice cooks differently so a cooked volume would be meaningless - most close to double but some will vary a lot)

    I would strongly suggest you get an IH model - induction heating - they are much better than just the Micom ones when it comes to holding cooked rice.

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    I just dug out my copy of The Ultimate Rice Cooker Cookbook they refer to

    small  as 4 USA standard cups (uncooked) 960ml

    medium as 6 USA standard cups (uncooked) 1440ml

    large as 8 USA standard cups (uncooked) 1920ml

    All the receipes are written using standard USA cups 240ml (unless otherwise noted) because i'm in canada the book was maddening because we use 250ml...  The book should just write all the recipes using 'a rice cooker cup' ie. 180ml until they come out with a new version I won't recommend it to anyone.

    To compound things Zojirushi doesn't follow this books size recommendations.  

    They use:

    Small is 3 rice cooker cups 540ml

    Medium is 5.5 rice cooker cups 990ml

    Large is 10 rice cooker cups 1800ml

    http://www.zojirushi.com/ourproducts/how_and_chart/comparison_pdf/Zojirushi Rice Cooker Chart.pdf

    If you absolutely want to use the book you need to buy the Large NP-HBC18  (ie. 1800ml) it works fine with smaller amounts.

    You won't be able to use the Zojirushi 3 cup rice cooker at all - it is really tiny.   The zojirushi Medium 5.5cups will do most receipes but will fall short on capacity for a few.

    Remember you need much more capacity than just what the rice uses as the Mixed ingredients will foam and boil over making a mess and possibly destroying your machine if you don't give them enough room.

    Just to be super clear - the book calls for an uncooked rice 6 USA cup machine (1440ml)  - which doesn't exist if you want fuzzy logic.  
     
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  5. ghodur

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    I think you've answered my question. I believe I need the 5.5 cup size. It looks like it's impossible to find a 6 in the computerized ones.
     
  6. petemccracken

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  7. michaelga

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  8. ghodur

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    OK, for better or for worse I bought one. A 5.5 cup Zijirushi. Can't wait til  it gets here on Thurs. I noticed that many of the recipes in the Rice Cooker Cookbook use only 1 cup of grain, so I should be fine on modt of them. It will be fun to experiment!
     
  9. michaelga

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    Glad to hear!

    It is great fun experimenting and just plain handy to have rice on hand at all times.
     
  10. kokopuffs

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    Do these rice cookers make 'dry' rice, like what's served with Indian and Iranian cuisine - as I've never used one?
     
  11. ghodur

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    I guess I've never had 'dry' rice, I don't know what that is. I never noticed any difference in the rice when we went out for Indian food.
     
  12. michaelga

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    Yes they do and they do it very well, although you won't get 'Tahdig' or 'Guoba' - the highly browned crispy bit on the bottom of the pot.

    They all have settings for adjusting the cooking method of white rice - harder - softer etc.

    The computer technology that controls the cooking is so advanced now that unless you are an absolute master rice cook, you won't do any better.
     
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    To me, rice served in asian (chinese, japanese) restaurants is sticky, as opposed to my interpretation of dry.
     
  14. petemccracken

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    Ah, Kokopuffs, now I understand, you are talking the difference between long grained (Mahatma, Jasmine, etc.) rice and medium to short grained (Cal Rose, Sushi, Glutinous) rice.

    It is the variety more than the cooker that makes it "sticky", check out http://busycooks.about.com/od/howtocook/a/ricescience.htm
     
     
  15. michaelga

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    One of the main reasons to buy a rice cooker that uses fuzzy logic (micom) etc. is because they do exceptionally well with any type of rice as they rely on calculations determined by temperature and how fast the temperature changes.- not based on time.

    Makes for great rice of any style / variety.

    Even really good to get a custom combination - basmati and jasmine are particularly good.
     
    Last edited: Jun 30, 2013
  16. raibeaux

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    I once bought a Panasonic rice cooker, probably 15 years ago.  An employee dropped it the second day.  Destroyed it.  Never bought another one.  Now I'm wondering just how good they are nowadays for use in a restaurant kitchen.  Do they make rice as good as you can by normal methods?  Just seems to me that the product would be sticky or dry or wet or something.

    Do they really work well?

    Thanks much for any information.
     
  17. ghodur

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    Oh I've loved both of mine and I've used one for years. The new fuzzy logic ones are especially good, but I also got great results with a simple on/off one. It does make a difference if you fluff the rice at the beginning of the keep-warm cycle and then close the lid and let it steam for 10-15 minutes. The only times I've had soggy rice were when I decided to dish it up without letting it steam.
     
  18. michaelga

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    They work incredibly well.

    Unless you are a complete 'master' at cooking rice - then it will likely cook rice way better.  Where it excels is cooking a batch of rice that you've never cooked before... no more messing around figuring out the perfect timing and water ratios - only to end up running out of that batch.

    The product comes out perfect every time - there are programs for every type of rice and the logic (programming) is very well honed.

    Just to be clear I'm talking about the ones that use 'fuzy-logic' or 'micom' processors.  

    Induction heating is very nice to have as it can really hold a precise 140F that won't harm the quality of the rice over a long period of time.   The induction models are also way more accurate as they don't have to deal with coasting or thermal mass as much and the temp isn't simply on/off it can be varied by the computer.

    If you can spend the extra get one that uses pressure also.

    As you can probably tell I'm a big fan.
     
  19. raibeaux

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    Hi.  Any suggestions as to brand or model?  Anything new on the market you've heard about?  I'm gonna check into this.  Thanks for the input.
     
  20. raibeaux

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    The one I'm looking at on Amazon is this:   

    How many actual US cups can be correctly cooked in this?  Is this the one you're talking about?  I can't find a fuzzy-logic, induction cooker in a larger size than this.  Do you know of one?

    Thanks again for the information.