My sense of smell is gone!

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  1. french fries

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    Hi FF , Thanks for sharing the article. For the past few days I am able to smell and taste the food for the first few minutes but then it goes back and limits to the nose smell only. I am having a feeling it is improving on daily badis. Like you said need a lot of patience

    Also once a while (Not all the time) if I smell something strong like strong cooking smell it keeps lingering in my memory and I keep getting the smell even after it has gone. Did this happen to you?
     
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    Hi FF & other people on this thread,

    Thought I should update the thread . Just wanted to share the good news & I am confident to say that I have regained my senses 100 % to normal. Just wanted to share the phases & symtoms i went throgh and the remedies that I took :

    April 12, 2014 - Had the first cold.
    April 13- 18 2014 - Took Tylenol day / Tylenol Night for 5 days. Reduced the fever but still not feeling OK.
    April 18, 2014 - Cold became severe with lots of sneezing.
    April 19, 2014 - Completely lost the smell. Could not smell anything at all. Food was tasteless.
    April 22, 2014 - Could smell 2-5% of things intermittently. Most of the time gone. Food was tasteless.
    April 22 - 27, 2014 - Smell improved to 50%. Sometimes gone completely. Could smell the food partially while eating.
    April 28- May 8, 2013 - New symptom of retaining smell which was not existing. Phantom smell of Cigarette or smoke all the time while you are awake. Had a great difficulty in sleeping . Everything was smelling of smoke.
    May 9, 2014 - Had a second round of cold and blocked my nose completely. Sense of smell gone completely again.
    May 9 - 28, 2014 - Slow recovery of the smell to 70%. Sometimes smell is reduced to 10-20% but this time does not go down to zero. Also cannot smell the food while eating .Food is still tasteless.
    May 29, 2014- Almost recovered but one side of the nose is constantly blocked. No mucus and can't breathe properly. Sense of smell returns to almost 70%. Also can taste the food to 50% extent, almost all the time.
    May 28 - June 5, 2104, Took Advil Cold & Sinus for 4 days 3 tablets a day. This was breaker for the episode . As of today the sense of smell is 100% normal and the blocked nose is completely gone. Should have taken this before.

    Remedies taken in between which helped :

    Took steam inhalation with eucalyptus oil for 1/2 hour helped to regain the smell senses but never removed the blockage .
    Tried Neti pot a few times, did not do much for me . Although the doctor recommended it highly.
    Finally took medications as per the advise of Doctor. - Advil Cold & sinus available over the counter. Took 3 tablets each day for the first 3 days and 2 tablets on the 4th day. This was the breaker for this episode and cleared up everything .

    Thanks for all the info on this thread & hope someone gets helped with my remedial measures. This will be my last post in this thread.
     
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    Since this is 6months old, i dont know if people are going to reply.

    On january 9th i lost my sense of smell and taste, and went to the ER, because of possible brain, injury, completely waste of 5hrs there.

    One month before all this happen i had particular severe cold, which i was cough for at least a week, but i did not detect any loss of smell and taste. Other medications i took around the same time, were antihistamines: diphenhydramine had the greatest effect. On jan 8th, i decided to take "daytime non-drowsy pill", which had dextromorphan,acetomeniphen, phenyleprine, and another generic brand of diphenhydramine. While i was feeling the effects, which i thought it was unsually sedating me, i noticed my loss of smell and taste, i checked by eating a raisin bread, no taste.

    Furthermore i also had some neurological issue, neuropathy pins and needles on left side, loss of sensations in my organs, barely could feel it.

    throughout the follow weeks, i had constant pins and needles and loss of sensation.

    I notice that some of you took anti-histamines, which can dry out the nose, and the 1st generation antihistamines, can actually shut down the mucus producing, i wonder if this would be the cause.

    could loss of smell and taste, and loss of sensation be related to the cold, i am aware other diseases like autoimmune and injuries can cause it, but i cannot find any correlation
     
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    FF I am wondering did you look into the smell and taste clinic in DC? Or otherwise consult anyone in the year it took to recover? Also how long did you suffer from your phantom smell or unusual sense of smell before your smell started correcting itself. From what I am noticing in the Internet.. This is a precursor for the sense to come back.
     
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    Sage perry did yours come back? I am in the same position right now. Hoping to hear some good news.
     
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    Did yours return? The docs are saying the same thing to me. But all the stuff that I am reading online is scaring me.
     
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    maybe it will be ok days later . 
     
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    He Steve when your smell started to come back was the recover choppy or linear. As in did you one dat smell something and the next day weren't able to?
     
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    wow !

    career ender...

    good luck and i sure hope it comes back !!!
     
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    I consulted a local doctor, he suggested steroids, I never took them and never went back. I was not aware of that clinic. I don't remember exactly how long it took but probably a year or so? I suppose you may be able to tell from looking at the dates of my posts in this thread? But it was definitely a progressive (and slow) recovery. Nothing overnight. 
     
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    Hello, French Fries

    I am freaking out over here. I have had a virus of some sort for 50 days ago. I can smell just a little bit. I started with a flu virus, started 5/20, this lasted for about 7 days. I had a dry insatiable cough, then it turned into a productive cough, and after 1 week I went to the ENT specialist - he prescribed a steroid drop Flonase 2x/day for a long 8 days. 

    Sometimes I can taste (smell) some of my food, and the few odors that I can smell change in intensity few times during the day, sometimes smell quite strong and sometimes smell nothing.

    Sometimes can I smell a new odor and soon after disappears.

    The week my ENT specialist try giving me a injection of steroids. He says he has had success with these injections with cases similar to mine. 

    His explanation is that it works as a quick push for smell receptors.

    I hope he is right.

    I hope to recover in the same way that you recovered.

    I know I'm impatient and I know that improvements are shown in many cases after 3 to 6 months after injury.

    Regards
     
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    Like French Fries, I had a bad virus for 50 days ago 

    My sense of smell is not completely gone. I have a little bit but not much, maybe 10% and like French Fries, I've never experienced that before, and it scares me.

    Mine taste buds are intact and I can taste salty, sweet, etc.  We do not perceive flavors on the tongue. It is a combination of smell and taste. No smell, no taste. 

    I can taste some of the food and some not. So I am certainly sure that not all my sense of smell is affected.

    I have noticed that sometimes I can smell a little bit more following with worsening of my sense of smell.

    For a couple of days ago, I could smell only for 30-40 minutes few flowers, damp from earth and garbache and another few things. 

    Yesterday only for a couple of hours I could smell coffee, bolognese pasta, pizza and popcorn, a few flowers, damp from earth, cigarette smoke and few things more. I remember that the last time I could smell coffee was for four weeks ago.

    Men today my anosmia worsened, I cannot smell almost nothing, even the few things I could smell are disappearing.

    Next week I will visit a ENT to get prednisone or steroid shots, this is freaking me out. I really hope it's a temporary thing.

    And about the question:

    When the smell starts to come back is the recover choppy or linear. One date  you smell something and the next day weren't able to?

    I asked the same thing to my ENT. He responded by saying that recovering normally is not linear. Things you can smell now can be gone later, coming back some days or weeks later. The explanation is that the olfactory nerves need time to develop to a more stable form. This was the explication from my ENT.
     
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    Also going through the same thing. I have been suffering for about 60-70 days now. I can only smell things if they are close to my nostril. And my left nostril is worse than my right nostril. Recovery is definitely not linear. I think at 3 months you are supposed to see progress and then again at six. That's what I was told. Keep on updating!

    Also try to get a smell test done. It will at least tell you what your starting point is. The less injury the better.
     
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    My sister is a researcher at the University of Murcia in Spain. She knows something about how the nerves within the nose and the regeneration process.

    The facts based on the latest research in the field are ( last research is dated May 2015 - Germany)

    1: 85 percent of patients with hyposmia or anosmia are recovered in the course of 6 months to two years. (87,5%).

    2. Those who do not recover is due to other circumstances such as, for example, elderly (65+) or other problems such as genetic or other diseases.

    3. Most of them have a recovery ranging from 60% to 100% in the first year. The time expectation for the group of 60%+ is two years, for a total or almost total recovery.

    In USA (Smell and Taste Clinic) have obtained more or less the same results:

    TI

    Prognosis of postviral olfactory loss: follow-up study for longer than one year.

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    Lee DY, Lee WH, Wee JH, Kim JW

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    Am J Rhinol Allergy. 2014;28(5):419.

    BACKGROUND: There have been very few studies on the prognosis of postviral olfactory dysfunction. The aim of the study was to evaluate its long-term prognosis and factors influencing the prognosis.

    METHODS: This study included patients who were diagnosed with postviral olfactory dysfunction at least one year ago in a Smell and Taste Clinic and whose telephone interviews were available. Their medical records were reviewed, and they were asked to score their subjective olfactory function on a 100-point scale by telephone interview.

    RESULTS: A total of 63 patients and 20 normal controls without nasal pathology were included. The mean age of the patients was 49.5 years, and 19 males and 44 females were included. The mean length of follow-up was 33.4 months. Olfactory dysfunction was subjectively improved in 85.7% of the patients. The recovery rate to subjective normosmia was 31.7%. The mean symptom scores for smell significantly increased in comparison with baseline from 25.6 to 69.0. Among the 25 patients (37.7%) who underwent follow-up butanol threshold test (BTT), the score improved from 4.6 to 7.3. Olfactory improvement was more frequently reported by females (p = .003) and in patients with follow-up duration for longer than 2 years (p = .043).

    CONCLUSIONS: Follow-up of postviral olfactory loss revealed that over 80% of the patients reported subjective recovery after one year. The more favorable prognosis was associated with longer follow-up duration and female gender.

    AD

    Department of Otorhinolaryngology, Seoul National University College of Medicine, Seoul National University Bundang Hospital, Seongnam, South Korea.
     
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    I need to submit again some part of the text.

    TIPrognosis of postviral olfactory loss: follow-up study for longer than one year.
    AULee DY, Lee WH, Wee JH, Kim JW
    SOAm J Rhinol Allergy. 2014;28(5):419.
     
    BACKGROUND: There have been very few studies on the prognosis of postviral olfactory dysfunction. 
    The aim of the study was to evaluate its long-term prognosis and factors influencing the prognosis.

    METHODS: This study included patients who were diagnosed with postviral olfactory dysfunction at 
    least one year ago in a Smell and Taste Clinic and whose telephone interviews were available. 
    Their medical records were reviewed, and they were asked to score their subjective olfactory 
    function on a 100-point scale by telephone interview.

    RESULTS: A total of 63 patients and 20 normal controls without nasal pathology were included. 

    The mean age of the patients was 49.5 years, and 19 males and 44 females were included. The mean 
    length of follow-up was 33.4 months. Olfactory dysfunction was subjectively improved in 85.7% of the patients. 

    The recovery rate to subjective normosmia was 31.7%. The mean symptom scores for smell significantly increased in 
    comparison with baseline from 25.6 to 69.0. Among the 25 patients (37.7%) who underwent follow-up butanol threshold test (BTT), 
    the score improved from 4.6 to 7.3.

    Olfactory improvement was more frequently reported by females (p = .003) 
    and in patients with follow-up duration for longer than 2 years (p = .043).

    CONCLUSIONS: Follow-up of postviral olfactory loss revealed that over 80% of the patients reported subjective 
    recovery after one year. The more favorable prognosis was associated with longer follow-up duration and female gender.

    ADDepartment of Otorhinolaryngology, Seoul National University College of Medicine, Seoul National University 

    Bundang Hospital, Seongnam, South Korea.
     
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    I'm scared now. 

    My sense of smell apparently is leaving me. 

    Yesterday I had a day a good day, my smell sense looked like it was recovering, but today is the opposite. 

    Any of you guys have had the same experience with your smell sense?.

    French Fries it happened something similar to you?
     
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    I am right there with you on the frustration level. I have noticed that when it's a humid day I smell less. In the beginning I experienced the on again off again. Right now it's stable-ish. Again some days are better and I've noticed that the days when it's not humid are definitely better. Maybe it has something to do with there being less wind? What I do to calm myself down and not panic those days is do smell therapy because I know I will be able to smell things up close. I don't know if you have looked into smell therapy, but it helps some people. I think it helped me when I was doing it the first month. I still do it, but not as religiously.

    I hope you are doing better now. Did you take the steroid shots? How did it go? There is probably nothing else we can do but wait to see what happens after the 3-4 month milestone passes. But according to your research and some others I've read and anecdotal evidence people do get better.
     
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    I am in the same situation as you, for example yesterday was en OK day but today is again a panic day, you know what I mean. How do yo do the smell therapy and what are you using for that?. I am living in Denmark and nobody here knows about the smell therapy. Can you please help me with some information about that, for example, what are you using and how do you use the therapy ?. Asking to your question about the steroid shot, No , I did not take the steroid shot because I have zinc deficiency,I am in level 4, I am really empty of zinc. I cannot take steroids with zinc deficiency. My ENT mean that one explication for my smell sense loss can be the zinc deficiency, without zinc the smell sense cannot work. So now I am taking zinc deficiency supplements in a more or less high dosage. I start taking zinc supplements for 4 days ago and maybe can see some effect on 2 weeks. One of the commons symptoms of zinc deficiency is smell loss and URI infections take with them a lot of zinc because zinc is fundamental for the immunity, even mild forms of zinc deficiency can impair immunity. I would like to ask you something, how far are you from the 3-4 month milestone. Today is my 56 day, I am 34 days from the 4 months milestone.

    I hope for us, we get better-