Misono SS vs Fujiwara vs Kanetsugu

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  1. john br

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    Hello,

    I'm looking for a Gyuto under 100$ on JCK (as I live in France).

    On this website we can find 3 series in this price range :

    Misono Steel Series (not UX10)

    Kanetsugu ProM (with special handle)

    Fujiwara FKM, (wich is often presented here as a good choice for beginners )

    What difference can you see between those knife and what is your advice?

    Thanks!
     
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    It's a bit more expensive but I could think about 440 series. Is this line better than 3 others?

    It's for home cook, but I don't want carbon steel, I prefer stainless at first.
     
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    OK thanks. I'm afraid I won't be able to get it from korin as i'm french and do not intend to move for a few years ;)
    Tell me if I'm right
    So Misono provides better F&F than fujiwara. Misono molyb will be easier to sharpen as it is softer than 440.

    Finally, Misono moly offers good Misono F&F and a cheap price.
    440 is more expensive, steel has really better quality over other series?
     
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    There is a Korin-France that is also having a 15% discount on knives :)
     
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    OK thanksbforbthe tip! I just had a look at korin france but they do not sell Misono or fujiwara here. They propose tohigaru and suisin as entry level.
     
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    Misono molyb is 80S in 210 gyuto
    Misono 440 is 120
    Fujiwara fkm is 75.
    So 440 is an upper class.
    What's worth between fujiwara and Misono molyb?
     
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    Oops, didn't notice the difference in selection. Yeah, Togiharu's INOX and Molybdenum line would probably be considered entry level. Same with Suisin INOX Western which has really good F&F and a two-toned handle but runs pricier.
     
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    Could you advise abiut différences for
    steel quality,
    edge rétention,
    Balance
    Edge shape
    Ease to sharpen

    Misono moly has a thinner edge 2 vs 2,2mm and is a slightly lighter 157 vs 172 g
     
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    Actually I think Misono 440 series mostly compete with masamto vg series, at 20 dollars difference.
    Is Fujiwara better alloy (aus8?) than misono molybdene?
     
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    I'd be inclined to think theyare very similar, but this is just personal speculation.
     
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    @Benuser According to you, price gap between Misono molyb and Misono 440 is justified ?(40 dollars for 210 gyuto)
     
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    In the same price range we find JCK KAGAYAKI ES 210 Gyuto (VG10) now At 128$ (instead of 150$). Is it competing with misono 440?
     
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    OK thanks. Misano 440 seems good for value. Anything else good for 100-130$?
     
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    No personal experience with the JCK knives or Misono's stainless, but if you started looking at that higher price range you can also find stuff like the Inazuma knives from JCK, if bling matters. For $145 Sukenari stamped Gingami 210mm is an option.

    Also JCK Kagayaki Basic competes with the knives originally considered.
     
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    Oh yes thanks! I had not noticed Kagayaki basic, il also in sale and it looks good.

    Vs misono is it the same for F&F,  edge retention, and ease to sharpen?
     
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    Ok so I don't need to hurry!
     
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    I'm still earning stone sharpening, I am still quite unexperienced. I recently purchased a Naniwa  Specialty stone 1000 grit, ad and i have a small width (3 cm) combination stone (1000/3000) wich does not fit very well for large knives

    The result is sharp but far from scarying!

    I hope I will be able to give sharpness those knifes deserve.
     
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    Build your angle holding and muscle memory on that 1k :) keep practicing!
     
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    For 20 dollars more than misono 440, is mamamoto vg worth the price gap
     
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    I Would also consider semi stainless knives. Jck carbonext seems great. Is there anything similar with wa handle?
    Is Edge retention better on CN over, let's say, Misono 440?
    One more thing : what about blue moon steel?
    Thx!