just trying to get some perspectives on this- i work with a kitchen manager who isnt the cleanest of cooks, usually by the time i come in, hes been at work for about 5 hours, and the kitchen, storage areas, and general vicinity of the place is lookin pretty beat up and sloppy. not at all the way i had left it at closing the night before. were a busy operation, plenty of prep going on from 8 am until i get in at around 12, so i can sympathize with it to a point, but its really starting to bug me lately with the heat and now ive noticed a few flies around. i like the job, and the night crew (myself included) generally works clean, but there always seems to be some of the days debris around. my night dishwasher always comes in to a sloppy pot sink and a bunch of disorganized dirty plates and dishes while a day dishwasher is doing some type of prep. we are not understaffed, plenty of cooks to prep. i know im not asking too much of a guy to sweep up the floor half an hour before the end of their shift, empty the trash and get some of the dishes done for my dishwasher, but when i bring these kind of things up with the guy its always "ok ok" then three days later back to square one. its really starting to make me feel like my energy would be better spent just bashing my head into the wall. i do sometimes think that im written off due to my comparative age, but what am i supposed to put baby powder in my hair and get bifocals so people will listen to things ive learned from some damn fine chefs? it makes me wonder if i want to work alongside with this kind of indifference to what i (and i imagine most of you all) consider the most important aspect of working in a kitchen. im not really in a position above the guy, but shouldnt me being right give me the upper hand to say get your sh!t together guy? ive noticed theres a few older types around here, and id like to hear your input. would you listen to a peer, 20 years younger, trying to get you to shape up? i dont think this is a subjective issue, right??