Here’s My Dilemma: IT LEAKS!

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  1. kaneohegirlinaz

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    DH and I are starting to plan our ‘Great Western Adventure’.  We will be driving through Nevada, Utah, Idaho, Montana, North Dakota, South Dakota, Wyoming, Colorado and then back home.  

    We enjoy, well, not really camp cooking but roughing it while in hotel/motel rooms.  I prepare some foods for the first few days of our journeys and then stop at markets along the way for supplies; then brew something up back at the ‘camp’.  I usually take along a smallish,as well as a large hard sided coolers, plus a large collapsible soft sided fabric cooler for foodstuffs.  That makes it easier to stash away when not in service. 

    Even though I use the ice supplied by most hotel/motels in a gallon sized zip top freezer bag (doubled up for further protection) we still have leaks on the floorboards. 

    Could any of you lend some thoughts/suggestions/directions?
     
  2. phatch

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    The soft sided coolers do develop leaks. You can also get some condensation problems with them. I've given up on them entirely. If you want to stick with the soft sided, you need to commit to the plastic cased freezer blocks.

    The best reasonable equipment, Coleman Xtreme Marine line.  See what your local walmart has in that line in a size you like. Make sure its an Xtreme Marine, not just Xtreme or just Marine. Also walmart online and amazon if you want a specific size. There are better insulated and beefier coolers but they cost a lot more and don't improve performance commensurate with their price.

    If you really want to get into cooler heaven, get an ARB car refrigerator. There are cheap copies that only give you a 40 degree drop over ambient temp, but the ARB will hold refrigerator temps in the heat and overnight. They're very expensive. You'll probably need to add a deep cycle marine battery to your car to ensure you can keep it powered without killing your normal battery.  You won't have to deal with ice unless you want to.  I really want one of these...

    http://www.arb.com.au/products/arb-freezer-fridges
     
  3. kaneohegirlinaz

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    YOWZA! 

    That’s a really nice fridge/freezer, but MAN!  It’s just a bit out of my league, but then maybe if I’m really good, Santa will give me one for Christmas. 

    Though…  sometimes we’re in ambient air temps exceeding 120⁰

    I thought about the plastic freezer blocks, the only things is that it’s sometimes difficult to re-freeze them in most hotel/motel fridges.
     
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    The ARB's can take that and hold refrigerator temps, but they draw more power to do it.

    Costco had a $99.00 unit this spring that would do the 40 degree differential. Fine while you're in AC in the car. I think you could take that into the hotel each night and plug it in though so it would only have to deal with the temp build up in the car while you're out of the car. Might work for you.  Something like this:
    That's why I gave up on the idea. Be cool if the market could develop standardized blocks that you could swap in the stores. Sort of like they do for propane tanks. Turn in your melted block, pay a small charge for a frozen one and you're on your way.
     
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    And where are you going in UT?
     
  6. kaneohegirlinaz

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    Bryce Canyon, Promontory Point (Golden Spike National Historical Site),

    I think SLC but not sure yet.

    This is our Anniversary gift to one another,

    something that we talked about doing long before we ever moved to the mainland.

    We’ve been to Zion and Arches, along with numerous other points of interest,

    this is like a continuation.
     
  7. phatch

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    Those are good places.

    Golden Spike is an empty stretch of country. You will pass ATK (Rocket boosters for the Shuttle, missiles and more). They have a public display worth walking around in for a few minutes. They might have more by now as well. There's an offshoot that's now a separate business there now too, Autoliv. They make the combustion charges for airbags. You'll note a lot of escape slides on that building for the workers to try and get out before anything burns. I'm not aware of any public display at Autoliv.  This page has some pix of ATK's "Rocket Garden" http://howetravel.blogspot.com/2012/07/golden-spike-national-historic-site-and.html

    There's a good reason those businesses are way out there from anything else.

    They don't run the trains at Golden Spike all that often. It's fun to see when they do. They still offer a tour through the replica engines and all.

    While you're out that far, you should probably go a little further and see the Spiral Jetty. http://www.diaart.org/sites/main/spiraljetty. If your vehicle can handle it and it's not as rough as that site makes it out to be. Ask the rangers at Golden Spike about road conditions and if it's visible.  http://www.climb-utah.com/WM/spiraljetty.htm 

    There's also a Bird Refuge out that way.  http://www.utah.com/ogden/bear_river_bird_refuge.htm

    There's an interesting train and old car museum in Ogden that has some other stuff from the Golden Spike era. Also has a firearm display because Browning has a factory a little further north from ATK. Part of the Utah Olympic bid scandal involved some Browning rifles as gifts. http://theunionstation.org/ 

    Along the way, you'll pass Smith and Edwards, an oddball surplus store that has a very good selection of cast iron cookware. The store is now more mainstream than it used to be. Still lots of other fun cookware too though. http://www.smithandedwards.com/

    If you're stopping in SLC, let me know.
     
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    Some phone pix from my Bryce stopover last fall.




     
  9. kaneohegirlinaz

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    That’s fantastic phatch!

    Thanks so much for the info,

    I’ll take a look at all of this and will certainly keep you in our loop.
     
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    Some traffic thoughts.

    http://adotblog.blogspot.com/2013/02/buckled-pavement-closes-us-89-south-of.html  89a will be your fastest route probably, unless they have this fixed by then. 89A is a pretty drive though in its own right. But there's a lot of elevation gain and some slow vehicles to get stuck behind.

    Once you get to Kanab in Utah, watch the speed limits closely on 89. The towns on that road are pretty strict for enforcing speed limits in the city limits.  Glendale has a fake police car they set up at the edges of the town to surprise the non-locals. Even has a dummy behind the wheel.
     
  11. kaneohegirlinaz

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    I almost have DH on board with getting an RV! YIPPEE! That way we can 'glamp', kind of. :D
     
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    Phatch said in part..
    I use to live in Kanab back in the middle 70's.  Some years ago my wife and I went to "Dixie" to visit my Dad.  We took 389 past "Plig City".  While on the route we saw a sign (hand painted), that said "Rest Stop Ahead".  My wife said "let's stop as I have to go".  A little ways later there was a "Porti-Potty" at a small pull off.  When she saw what the "rest stop ?" /img/vbsmilies/smilies/eek.gif really was she told me to continue on.  Since then, every time we see a "construction john" I look to her and say... "Arizona Rest Stop, Arizona Rest Stop!"  /img/vbsmilies/smilies/lol.gif

    La Cuisiniér Diabétique
     
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    oh my plastic water bottles..have front desk freeze them...they r more than willing..keep in a plastic bag so it can be identified with perhaps your room number on it
     
  14. kaneohegirlinaz

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    REALLY!?  

    I never though to ask the front desk to do that, but I guess they would, that is if they have their own freezer.

    On this trip, we will be staying mostly at non-brand name hotels, small towns, and not much around for MILES!

    We have done so well with our dieting, I mean new way of looking at what we eat have lost so much weight, we don't want to blow it on this trip and would really like to be able to partake in the local farmer's markets and the like.

    I suppose I could always go out and buy another hard-sided cooler for food stuffs, but I've found that the fabric, soft-sided ones work so much better.

    I also take along extra zip-top bags for any leftovers for our next stop.

    Ya'know, after a long day of touring around or driving for hours, the last thing, we want to do anyway, is sit in a restaurant for hours on end and eat food that isn't any good, either in flavor or for us.