Got my knife and my cash stolen from work today

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  1. chef brah

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    was a $100 knife and lost around 85 bucks in cash

    was in my jacket in the office and when i came down to pick it up , it was gone...within a period of an hour.

    senior chef could not find out who took it and said he emailed management

    feels like a sh!t day and dont even feel like working tomorrow..pissed off
     
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  2. phaedrus

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    That sucks donkey balls.  I hate thieves.
     
  3. peachcreek

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    That sucks! My condolences.
     
  4. brianshaw

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    Bummer. Sorry for your loss. What kind of a place do you work in, and with what kind of people? I detest thieves!
     
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  5. someday

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    That sucks man :(

    I'm not victim blaming or anything, but it is good you learned an important lesson early on. Always keep expensive/important things on your person or locked in a locker at all times. It really sucks, cause I know we'd all like to trust the people we work with, but you can't take any chances with that kind of stuff. 

    Even if you trust all the people you work with in the kitchen, there are always non-kitchen employees, delivery drivers, sales people, VIPs, customers, etc always walking around in the kitchen. 
     
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  6. peachcreek

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    I had the kitchen iPod lifted by a guy on his last day....I went to turn on music as we closed.... and it was gone. It wasn't valuable... but I still miss my playlist! And the gall of them!
     
  7. foodpump

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    As Someday said, its not just your coworkers. I had a small electronic scale stolen by a delivery driver, also had a couple of paring kinves "borrowed" by an owner's daughter.

    Best thing to do right now is to replace the knife with something inexpensive--not cheap, inexpensive. Victorinox or Mac are pretty good for this. Melt a couple of distinguishing marks on the grip, get a dremel or the like and etch your name on the blade. Yes its ugly, thats the point. The odds of some stealing this one are pretty low--not impossible, but low.

    Best thing to keep your knives in the kitchen is a plastic tool box/fishing tackle box. Plastic because you can toss it in the dishwasher when it gets dirty, plastic because it won't leave rust marks all over the place. These boxes always have hasps, so you furnish your own lock. Personalize the toolbox, plaster it with WinSin and Poon Huat stickers, Pungol seafood stickers, spray paint it purple, whatever. The main thing is, you can spot the box from 30feet away, the second most important thing is, it is very hard to stuff such a box down your pants or in your apron. Again, not impossible, but hard to.

    Hope this helps,
     
  8. chef brah

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    i doubt i am going to buy my own knife for work anymore.

    trying to pressure management into reimbursing me as i just started work there
     
  9. flipflopgirl

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    It would be sad to find out at the end of your probation period that you are being let go from a place you were so excited about.

    Things get stolen...yes it sux but it is a fact of life.

    Don't be a snowflake... cowboy up and move on.

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  10. foodpump

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    I don't understand, why do you feel management is responsible? Why should they reimburse you? Are you somehow suggesrting management stole knives and cash?

    This is pretty much every employers nightmare, theft from employees. We sh*t our pants when we see employees with expensive jewlery, electronics or large wads of cash. We beg and implore employees to leave that stuff at home. Like mimi says, that stuff happens, the bigger the place the greater the odds.

    Chin up, get an inexpensive chefs knife and some really el-cheapo paring knives for work. Thats all you really need for 99% of your work.
     
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  11. chef brah

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    let go for what?

    if the management is that shrewd then i can find a better place to work

    my previous job, the management went ways to ensure employees were working in a fair and safe environment.

    maybe u r used to working for crappy management.

    its my first week at work and my property gets stolen from chefs office and they cant reimburse me for tools i need for work?

    a knife in a kitchen is like a laptop for a it consultant...if laptop went missing from workplace, u get a new laptop.
     
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  12. foodpump

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    Look at your employee handbook. I've never seen one that didn't contain the sentence:
    "Management will not be held responsible for lostnor stolen property"

    The point I want to make with you, Chef Brah, is this:
    Can you actually proove that Fred or Barney, or Wilma, all co workers in your place of employment, stole your property? Do you have evidence?

    Can you imagine every customer in that establishment who lost gloves, umbrellas, or had their cars vandalized in the public parking lot asking mgmt for compensation? Its printed right there on the menu: Mgmt not responsible for lost or stolen items.

    You think you're the first cook who has suff stolen? Do you know what " rental knives" are?

    Rental knives are what most institutions and chains use. A knife co supplies X amount of chefs knives, boning knives, etc. to the kitchen Every 4weeks (or as the contract stipulates) the knives are exchanged for fresh, sharp ones. Make no mistake, these knives are "Granny's panties ugly" , but they are sharp, and mngmt has informed all employees to leave any personal tools at home and use the rentals. Failure to do so will result in being sent home.

    Is this what you want? It makes very practical and economical sense for mngmt to do so. Especially if you have some cook who gets all white knuckled and deep ragged breathy when s/he brings uber expensive knives to work and gets them promplty stolen, and then wants to be reimbursed.

    I've had this conversation many times with cooks. Heck I was cooking at the Dynasty Hotel on Orchard road when it was the Dynasty and not the Marriott, and ol' Mr Tang said the same thing to the schmuck who brought his expensive knives to work and got them stolen

    Get over it ,and don't try to fob it. off on mgmt.
     
  13. chef brah

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    i understand your point and company policy is not to reimburse.

    and although they said they are investigating the matter, i wanted to give it a last shot in the utmost amicable manner..its simply  a request to them.

    now the problem is that the next day, my pockets were pulled open again and at this point its just ridiculous to work at place like this which takes no action for an active criminal working amongst us.

    maybe most chefs come from very underprivileged background and cave in to management, but i have always operated in life from a position of options and principle.

    if i left it out in open its one thing, but being targeted for theft 2 days in a row is ridiculous and i am not even sure why i have not approached police at this point...whats next? and where does it stop?

    other than i enjoy the work but the non-cooking aspects of the job need to be addressed.

    yes i have taken lot of sh!t from people in life and i know when its right to not complain and swallow your pride and loss but this is just weird that an active thief is being allowed at workplace and no action is being taken.

    there's a cctv outside the room where all thefts are taking place and management is not even willing to look at the time frame of theft...maybe its someone they know is doing it and they are covering it up.

    like i said..its last attempt of me writing an email to owner of restaurant and if no response then its cool...if they want to let me go..its cool too....atleast i will know what kind of organisations to filter out in my next job hunt.

    never operate out of desperation in life.
     
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    Why haven't you reported it to the police?
     
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    O.k. Now its making sense. Thanks for the additional information.

    So yes, there is rampant theft in the place, and yes, mgmt should address rampant theft. And yes, if its that bad with theft, Id probably take off too.

    I don't know if you are saying that mgmt does not provide lockers, but has installed cctv? And the thief just goes rifling through clothes in the Chef's (unlocked) office when everyone else is working? Thats a pretty scewed up scenerio.
     
  16. cheflayne

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    Put a mouse trap in your jacket pocket and leave it in the office again. Better and more reliable than cctv at identifying who the thief is
     
  17. chefwriter

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    There are various substances you can use to dye the guilty parties' hands. I'd check with the police to see what they would suggest. You can do that without alerting management. Stuff your pockets (maybe on an item of clothing you don't care about) with some long lasting dye and wait. Ultraviolet dye might be best. 

    You can also set up your own Go pro or other camera somewhere nearby.

    Get a paint grenade or paint land mine from the sporting goods store.

    Leave something in your clothing that someone would want to steal but make sure it has a tracking device on it.

    Set up your clothing with a tripwire to sound an alarm. 

    Or better yet, set up a trip wire to a big bucket of flour. Either overhead to dump on the thief or a device to blow it all over them. 

    Trip wire to bear spray, pepper spray or mace. 

    I'll think of more later. This is fun. I fckn hate thieves. 
     
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  18. hookedcook

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    You can tell a chef who have actually worked outside the US.  Whoever said call the police,  grow some balls, that won't get you anywhere.  HR won't help either.  I suck at computers so no link.  Look at defensivedevices.com.  It's a powder that you hide on what you think will get stolen.  Reacts to skins moisture and dies skins purple for 3-4 days.  Don't relay on other people to solve your problems.  There's a rumor out there that I knew a chef who found his girlfriend cheating on him with his roommate.  Instead of going crazy he made a plan,  2 weeks later with some chicken juice that happened to be left out for 2 weeks.  A syrenige,  and a bottle of the roomates tooth paste.  Oh no, he's sick,  what do you do when you throw up,  how about brush your teeth,  that's what I would do.  But that's just a story I heard.  I don't work with liers or thieves,  either give your two weeks and walk away or figure out who stole from youtake care of it,  your call?
     
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    Read this after my post. Like your thinking, chefs should be creative right!!!!!!!!  Isn't that part of the job???????
     
  20. hookedcook

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    That was for you