Good Vegan EATs ... (Vegetarian Too!)

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Hey, Ed. What you mean by traditional and what the Pilgrims ate are two different things.

Among the "traditional" dishes missing at the so-called first Thanksgiving: Turkey, pumpkin pie, mashed potatoes, Brussels sprouts, and, of course, the ubiquitous green bean casserole.

Iceman, they are reacting to the word vegan, rather than to the food as such. Which, of course, was your obvious intent in the first place.

Think about any traditional American Thanksgiving. Take away the turkey, and, perhaps, the oysters or chicken livers in the stuffing, and what's left? Not much that a vegan or vegetarian couldn't enjoy. To tag those dishes as vegan is merely looking for controversy for its own sake.
 
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KY were you at the first dinner?Take away the turkey and in MY HOUSE  you loose the tradition.

You can all eat whatever you want and make the turkey out of Tofu if you like. 

. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, thats what makes this country great,
 
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http://www.history.com/topics/thanksgiving

http://habee.hubpages.com/hub/The-First-Thanksgiving-What-was-on-the-Menu

If it's historical authenticity you're after, you should be looking up venison recipes.  

Two general points (1) man, people have short fuses when it comes to vegetarianism in any form (2) Thanksgiving meals are rituals, not normal meals, and some people get really bent out of shape when you mess with their rituals.  My Dad, many years, ago made a boneless turkey ... and deeply upset some of our guests.

Anyway, the nice thing about Thanksgiving dinners is that you can have unlimited side dishes, and as long as the traditionalists get the essentials they won't object if there are some veg or vegan dishes available.  The important thing is being together, no?  
 
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No, Ed, I wasn't there. But Governor Bradford, among others, was. And he (and others) left behind a record about what the meal's purpose was, and what was eaten. Neither have much to do with the holiday as we celebrate it today.

You seem to have a knack for assuming that the traditions established during your lifetime were how those things were always done. It's just not so. All I was doing was pointing out the fallacy of your snooty first response: i.e., "did the Pilgrims eat those things." Well, the simple fact is, the Pilgrims didn't eat the things you think of as traditional. So if what the Pilgrims ate is the criteria (that's the ground rule you established, not me), then your T-giving meal and the proposed vegan one are equally non-traditional.

 Butter is the permeating ingredient in everyrhing :)

I don't know if that actually true, KK. But it certainly doesn't have to be.

My point, though, was simple. If IceMan had posted the same links merely as "here are some interesting side-dishes for your T-giving table," would you or Ed have reacted the same way? I suspect not. What you're reacting to is the word "vegan," and the connotations it has for you. And, as I said, I have no doublt that was his intention, just another way of "stirring the pot," as he likes to put it.

Please, find some way to tell me that there is anything wrong with this dish. 

Actually, IceMan, I see two things wrong with it. First, I have better recipes for pumpkin soup than that one, which, seems to me, will be on the thin side and too nutty tasting. Second, if a meal will end with pumpkin pie---as many, perhaps most, T-giving meals do---then I wouldn't start it with a pumpkin soup.

But I, as should be obvious, have no problems with your basic contention.
 
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OK Swell ..... I'm happy for everyone and what they chose to eat. Bless us everyone.             Now back to the thread.

Has anyone at all gone to the link included in the original post? You'll find that it coincides with the title of the thread. I like to keep titles and links originally consistent. I'm funny like that. Everyone has rituals and traditions. The ritual and tradition of vegans is to not eat animal products. HELLO?!? (see: title of thread). LOL. There is no way I would expect any of my guests for a meal this size to eat every dish, so it really doesn't matter how many dishes are based on or include any one(1) particular ingredient (see: pumpkin). I don't or wouldn't expect anyone to eat or even try the tofu dish (maybe BDL). It kinda made me gag including it, but I digress to how I treat stories/topics. 

Weekday Vegetarian Thanksgiving: Parsnip Bisque with Crispy Chestnuts



Weekday Vegetarian Thanksgiving: Vegetable Tagine



Weekday Vegetarian Thanksgiving: Butternut Squash Galette



Weekday Vegetarian: Shaved Brussels Sprout Salad with Red Onion, Lemon and Pecorino



OK now. If there are any more "challenges" to the general vegan ideology and/or these dishes, just let me know. I've got +/-200 or so people from the soup-kitchens and/or shelters where I've made these in that will be happy to talk to you. LOL.

Thanksgiving around a ping-pong table
 
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I have no problem with vegans, vegetarians, or the foods they choose.

I do have a problem with anyone that expects me to conform to their choices whether and my house or my business. Especially when such demands are made with quasi-religious fervor.

Of course, if I wish to maintain reasonable family relationships and friendships, it would be wise for me to make allowances for a variety of choices.

And if I want to expand my potential business clientele, I would certainly make myself aware of food preferences and, where feasible, advertise the fact that I cater to a variety of choices.

Personally, I consume vegan, vegetarian, and a variety of other dishes on a rather frequent basis. However, I do not patronize a steak house and expect them to serve me something not on the menu.

Though I am an omnivore, I cannot ever remember demanding, or even asking, for someone else to acquiesce to my tastes in preference to their choices or offerings. I cannot say the same for many that I have met with choices different than mine, however.

TBS, medically based dietary restrictions are an entirely different subject as are those professing religious prohibitions.
 
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OK now. If there are any more "challenges" to the general vegan ideology and/or these dishes, just let me know. I've got +/-200 or so people from the soup-kitchens and/or shelters where I've made these in that will be happy to talk to you. LOL.
IceMan,

May I inquire as to why you posted these as vegan rather than simply as interesting dishes for Thanksgiving?

I see them simply as dishes prepared without the use of animal products, just as I do on an almost daily basis, even though I am not a vegan, vegetarian, or other restricted diet choice.

Do I challenge the vegan/vegetarian ideology? You bet!

Do I challenge the dishes you've posted? You are kidding, correct?

Am I supposed to reject the dishes out of hand simply because I do not ascribe to the vegan/vegetarian ideology?

I'm almost certain that you do not intend to portray yourself or the food you prepare to be superior to alternatives, do you?

I'm willing to bet the food you serve is tasty, filling, and nutritious, isn't that sufficient?
 
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READING IS FUNDAMENTAL.

Here's the opening of the "Original Post":
[h1]9 Vegan Thanksgiving Recipes Carnivores Will Eat Too[/h1]
Here's the link that goes with: 

http://www.treehugger.com/slideshow...thanksgiving-recipes-carnivores-will-eat-too/  

Does anyone notice any common corolating words? Did anyone (read: Pete) hit the link? 

This is an informational, conversational, enlightening, alternate quisine thread. It's not here to tell anyone what they should or need to do, except maybe follow the recipes. In any post I've made or will make in the future, look to see if it included "LOL". That means I'm JOKING

I look forward to reading, and welcome all positive replies, chippyness not so much. 
[h1]Beer Stewed Pears with Ginger[/h1]
Beer Stewed Pears with Ginger      (notice this time how the link matches the recipe/title name)

       Jerry James Stone   Living / Easy Vegetarian Recipes  



It says "vegetarian", but no ingredient in the recipe says "not vegan", so PLEASE, go look. It looks really good. 
 
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[h1]Cooking Lessons From a 3-Year-Old: Vegan Pumpkin Chocolate Chip Muffin Cupcakes[/h1]
  Rachel Cernansky ~ Living / Easy Vegetarian Recipes

Cooking Lessons From a 3-Year-Old: Vegan Pumpkin Chocolate Chip Muffin Cupcakes

 
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How could traditional things be established in my lifetime when in fact my grandparents celebrated Thanksgiving, they were a lot before me.

Talk about snooty responses, you are full of them. I assume you go to the net and do research to answer almost everyones ideas and statements posted here. Isn't it wonderful to be the final critic , and always right?

I read an article in a magi that said first Thanksgiving was assorted wild game and birds. Since I was not there, I don't know what game or birds they were , nor did article state which they were. The fact that they all sat down together and gave thanks is enough for me, and it could have been over burgers and fries.
 
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Roasted Red Beet Hummus                                      

     

Baked Pumpkin Fondue    (Not Vegan but still Vegetarian)



Seared Brussels Sprouts with Smoked Gouda Sauce    (Can Be Made Vegan)



Butternut Squash Gnocchi    (Can Be Made Vegan)



I apologize for this next one. It could be considered "food porn" and "NSFW". My sincerest apologies. 

Baked Apple Stuffed with Candied Ginger and Almonds



Thank You:       Jerry James Stone  Living / Easy Vegetarian Recipes
 
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[h1]Persimmon, Chèvre and Basil Pizza[/h1]
* VEGETARIAN ... BUT CAN BE VEGAN       all you've gotta do is swap out the chevre for some kinda vegan cheese.

Persimmon, Chèvre and Basil Pizza

Persimmons aren't just for cookies and baked good. The fruit, which is extremely high in Vitamin C, also makes a great Fall pizza. This could very well be the tastiest way to fight off a cold.  Enjoy this pizza with an off-dry Viogner.

  Jerry James Stone  / Easy Vegetarian Recipes

 

* Cook it darker than these pics suggest. Being a Chicagoland guy, that looks kinda pasty-white to me.
 
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Please, find some way to tell me that there is anything wrong with this dish. 


There is no way to get complete protein from this or any vegetarian dish. If we regularly eat without getting complete protein, our bodies cannibalize themselves to make up for the deficit. This means our bodies actually digest our muscles in order to get the complete protein they are starving for.

This is actually true. Is this what you meant?
 
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