Getting dishes and cutleries for restaurant. Tap or bottle beer?

Discussion in 'Professional Chefs' started by yellotrace, Sep 24, 2012.

  1. yellotrace


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    I've opened a thread regarding flooring and stock pots a while back.

    I've got yet another question for the pros.

    The shop I am looking to fit out is roughly 85sqm. It is enough to put in 2 washrooms, a kitchen and seating for maybe 30 from the plan my architect drew up with me. The place will be selling ramen and I don't know how many bowls I should be purchasing.

    I remember from somewhere that I should get 4 times the number of seatings or something.

    The place will sell primarily and most likely only ramen and beer, and I intend to add in gyoza sometime in the future. Therefore the variety of bowls, dishes and cutleries are greatly reduced.  But I do need to get some durable bowls and cups for ramen and beer respectively.  I plan on getting them custom made (if the price is right) from Korea when I visit this December.  But I don't know what kind of number I should be looking for.

    Also I'm going to be selling beer at the premise. No wine, just beer.

    I don't know what kind of things are necessary to install a tap beer in the premise. Or if it's worth it at all.

    Also same question applies regarding number of glasses for beer.

    I was planning to use one single type of glasses for both water and beer, is this weird?

    I'm not really a beer expert, I just hearty food that goes well with any beer, and I'm not really picky in what shape it comes in.

    I don't know if this is a big deal to others.
  2. cookers


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    Don't use the same glass for water and beer. That just screams ''I know nothing about a restaurant'' or ''I'm cheap!''

    Use mugs or tulip pint glasses for beer. Yes it will cost more, however your avid beer drinker will notice. People who don't drink beer will notice. Why does it matter? From experience when I was a bartender for a few months, I've had a customer complain to me that I used a white wine glass for red wine. What I used was a universal glass because I was out of both when it was busy, yet a woman who knows what she wants to drink, will know what she wants to drink it in. It's especially important when people order aromatic drinks and want a snifter glass. None of that matters since you'll only be selling beer, but I'm letting you know people will notice! 

    Do install a tap. People say the draft from the tap tastes better than the bottle/can. I wouldn't know because I don't drink beer. However almost every beer drinker at the bar asked what was on the tap and when I told them the nitrogen pressure line didn't work and I have it in the bottle, they were shunned away into getting something else. I've noticed this in a few other bars where customers will ask first what is on the tap. 

    Last but not least. Beer is not just beer. Stouts, ales, pilsners, lagers, etc. There's a noticeable difference in each and any person you're selling beer to will want a certain type and not the other. 
  3. flipflopgirl


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    Beer drinkers like to have a choice.

    Visit a few (or more ;-) bars in your target market area and see what they have on tap.

    Pick the 2 most popular.

    After you get up and running, ask your regulars what they think about your choices and maybe think about changing to what they like the most (you will get a million requests, I advise you only change one at a time and that would be to please your regular customers)

    Make a million!
  4. chefie


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    Regarding bottled beer versus tap.  Not only is tap considered better by most beer drinkers, it's a lot cheaper than bottled beer.  You will pay more for the initial installation, but will earn the cost back in short order.  Good Luck!
  5. spam


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    Coming from a guy who worked at a pourhouse with 100+ beers on tap...

    Tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, TAP!!!!

    Make sure you offer half-pints for those who want the less-expensive option that a bottle usually provides.