I've had a jones for steak and kidney pie lately (boneless sirloin @ $2.99/lb. this week) and got my nerve together and made something in between a rough puff and a short crust. I used 500g of AP, 250g of butter and enough ice water to pull it together. I cut my butter into smaller dice that normal for puff - more like a short crust, but rolled it out and folded it like a rough puff, but only twice - 8 layers. I'll let you know how it turns out.