I'm a proud graduate of a public high school (in Louisiana, no less). Stereotypes would say I'm terrible with grammar. While I'm nowhere near a linguistic expert, I think my abilities are on par with most other equally educated individuals. To your question: yes. I can still remember breaking down sentences and drawing diagrams to identify parts of speech, determine the correct usage of modifiers, etc. However, I think the education I received was far better than what some receive in public schools.Quick test for public school attendees only: Did you ever really learn to parse a sentance---or even know what that means?
I have my standards and quirks just like everybody else I guess. If I was hiring for a dishwasher, I don't think it's a problem, but if I were hiring for a cook, who has to read recipes, calculate quantities, take an inventory and create reports, then I feel these things are important.I would always take the bad spellers........
Just out of curiosity, Chefross, what does spelling and grammer have to do with a person's ability to cook? I never thought of them as requisites to work BOH.
Or are we talking about a different job classification?
I disagree completely with this statement. I went to an ordinary public school, but at a time when correctness was valued. Grammar is a social skill. Proper usage is always appropriate. In addition, it's quite easy to allow bad habits to creep in and become established if one is not careful.Fully correct grammer is reserved for formal occasions, not day to day speech.
I think I'm guilty of all of those faults. It's tough to get the North Louisiana slang out sometimes. "Ain't" will never leave my spoken vocabulary. I end sentences with prepositions all the time. Everyone else does too. If you say you don't, you're lying.So you're saying you never use slang, or colloquial, or idiomatic expressions? Never verbally end a sentance with a preposition? Never start a sentence with a dependent clause? Or answer one with a fragment? I reckon regionalisms are banned from your vocabulary as well?
So you're saying you never use slang, or colloquial, or idiomatic expressions? Never verbally end a sentance with a preposition? Never start a sentence with a dependent clause? Or answer one with a fragment? I reckon regionalisms are banned from your vocabulary as well?
I'm not saying any of those things. I certainly do break the rules, most often in favor of convenience. However, I thought I made the point quite clear that correctness is not reserved for formal occasions. Correctness is appropriate at any time, in any place that one chooses to be correct, if that is the standard one has set for oneself.
I disagree completely with this statement.
this=subjective pronoun <--- Oops, objective No, no....that is the object of the preposition /img/vbsmilies/smilies/blushing.gif
statement=object of the preposition "with" <--- so, what function does the word "statement" serve? Oh, who cares? /img/vbsmilies/smilies/lookaround.gif
Which, of course, is fully your right. But can you parse that sentence? My suggestion was that if you went to public school you probably can't. And, implied in that: if you can't parse it then you don't truly understand sentence structure. And if you don't understand structure, then you can't understand grammer and usage---no matter how hard you try.
Let's not bash the public schools. I do not believe them to be any worse than many private schools. They simply do not carry the same [so called] good credentials to which private schools try to lay claim. There are plenty of Ivy League graduates who are also grammatically ignorant.