Comprehension Demo

Discussion in 'Professional Chefs' started by hastings1987, Dec 16, 2016.

  1. hastings1987

    hastings1987

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     I'm having a interview today, and several throughout the week. I would like the individuals to do a skills test. Is there any type of documentation I should have them sign to make sure I remain safe in a legal sense? Any other advice I should take under consideration?
     
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  2. chefbuba

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    I don't understand where legality comes into a skills test.
    Test their skills and knowledge and be done with it.
    Do you worry of being suied for not hiring a certain candidate?
     
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  3. hastings1987

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    The concern is with them possibly hurting themselves and being suied 
     
  4. halb

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    I could be wrong but I believe your workman's comp would cover that sort of thing since technically they are doing work at your business. If so they couldn't sue you.
     
  5. someday

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    If I went in for a trial/job interview at a place and they asked me to sign a waiver I would be very wary about working there. Might make me think they don't take care of their people and are more interested in covering their butts than being responsible business owners. 

    I'm not saying that necessarily reflects you, but that would be my thoughts if I were presented with that. 

    Just curious, what "skills test" are you having them do?
     
  6. jimyra

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    This is a copy of an agreement I had to sign for an interview.  I have eliminated the name of the place and substituted restaurant .  It is a very high end resort.  I am sure their lawyers insist on using this agreement.  I have no problem signing such agreements.

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    Working Interview Agreement​
    As part of restaurant’s interview process, we request that our applicants, who are culinary craftsman and artisans, demonstrate their expertise as part of our assessment process.   The purpose of this is to ensure that serious applicants have the necessary technical and creative skills to succeed at restaurant.  The working interview will be subject to the following parameters:

    ·        I understand that the working interview is voluntary on my part as the applicant.

    ·        I understand that I am not entitled to a job offer by restaurant at the end of the working interview.

    ·        I understand that the working interview may include, but is not limited to, shadowing another culinary team member, performing prep in the kitchen, demonstration of my culinary creativity and ability to handle the tools of the culinary trade, creation and presentation of food as requested by Chef, and ability to respond positively to the pace of the kitchen.  

    ·        I understand that the working interview may last up to 4 hours.

    ·        I acknowledge that this opportunity to demonstrate my abilities is a voluntary part of the interview process and restaurant receives no direct or indirect benefit from my efforts.

    ·        I acknowledge that any creation or presentation by me will not be presented to restaurant guests and is only for assessment purposes by the culinary team.

    ·        I acknowledge that my time spent interviewing is unpaid.

    ·        I acknowledge that I am not an employee of restaurant and therefore not subject to worker’s compensation, and if I were to injure myself during this time, I would be responsible for my own medical care and associated costs.

    Applicant’s Name (Printed)_____

    Signature_____________________________________________________ Date_

    Representative__________________________ Date____________________

    Representative Title:___________________________________
     
  7. halb

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    Well, I would run that past my attorney. I don't think that if an interviewee lost an arm in a mixer or slipped and broke something you could just say not my problem. You can have anybody sign anything but it doesn't mean a thing if they are signing their rights away. If I had somebody doing repairs and they didn't have their own WC and they got hurt I would be on the hook- that's the law. I couldn't have them sign something that says I'm not responsible. It would be meaningless. 

    At the very least your general liability would cover this too unless they deem it to be a WC issue.
     
  8. jimyra

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    Having someone doing repairs that is not licensed and insured is very risky.  Compare it to hiring someone to cater a party of 300 out of their house.  Not inspected, no proper sanitation, no proper training talk about liability. I am sure a business could be held responsible if they had unsafe working conditions.
     
  9. halb

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    Much depends on the state you are in. Here in NY and in some other states you can be a properly licensed and insured business but if it's your business and you are a sole proprietor with no employees you can't get WC. But this is getting off the topic of this thread. My point is don't bother having the interviewee sign any kind of release because it isn't worth the paper it's written on. If they get hurt it's on you and that's why you have insurance.
     
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  10. jimyra

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    I am not a lawyer but I would consult one.  Also I would consult with my insurance company on how to reduce risk.

    The people that provided that form for me to sign built a restaurant with revenue of over a billion dollars a year.  I would say they have several pretty sharp lawyers. 
     
  11. chefross

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    Firstly I want to quote:

    "As part of restaurant’s interview process, we request that our applicants, who are culinary craftsman and artisans, demonstrate their expertise as part of our assessment process.   The purpose of this is to ensure that serious applicants have the necessary technical and creative skills to succeed at restaurant...."  

    While I'm sure that something like losing an arm in the mixer or slicing an artery while chopping is possible, the idea here is that professional artisans and craftsmen would be in the lower percentile of something like that happening.  

    Also in terms of legalities, the document that the interviewee signs is a contract. Now the above stated contract IS valid if signed.
     
  12. halb

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    Losing an arm was a gross exaggeration but things happen even with the best of us. I'm sticking to my story though- you can't have someone sign away their rights. If something like that was valid why not just have every employee sign a waiver and forget about insurance?

    Like I said, if you want legal advice ask an attorney.
     
  13. jimyra

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    This contract is for future employees.  When and If they are employed they a covered by workman's comp.