Choice for Cooking Oil

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  1. schmoozer

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    For the past few years XVOO has been my oil of choice for sautéing and stovetop cooking.  Earlier on I used canola oil, and even earlier some "vegetable" oil.  Over time I learned to dislike most canola oils - they had a somewhat "off" taste, even the highly touted organic oils from supposedly well-regarded producers.  Now I'd like to add some other oils to my repertoire.

    So, what oil has a high smoke point and imparts little, or preferably no, flavor to the finished dish?  I've looked at charts, talked to a few people but their experience and knowledge was limited, so perhaps asking here may give me some ideas and a better education.
     
  2. kokopuffs

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    If I faintly recall correctly, I think that the old Escoffier cookbook delves into that subject although the oils mentioned(saute/frying mediums) are quite characteristic of what was available at that time.  It's worth reading, however.

    As an everyday olive oil that I'd recommend, it's Wal Mart's own Great Value brand.
     
  3. fr33_mason

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    I've had good results with sunflower oil or even safflower oil.  Safflower is exceptionally light in flavor and refined, has a smoke point of 510 deg. F.
     
  4. mgchef

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     the oil with the highest smoking point is avocado oil, which has a smoking point of 520 deg. F. You might the taste is a bit overwhelming, but buy a really good bottle of it, try it out, and you'll find out it doesn't really add flavor. Other than that, clarified butter i think is like 480-485 deg F. and yea fr33 mason already said it sunflower and safflower oil are good too.
     
  5. kyheirloomer

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    Grapeseed oil is also fairly neutral and has a high smoke point. Kind of pricy, though.
     
  6. petalsandcoco

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    Almond oil , refined

    clean flavor , smoke point 495.
     
  7. fr33_mason

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    I would like to also add that you can blend oils. 

     For instance if I want to use olive oil in a high temp application, I'll just blend it, usually 50/50 with canola oil. If I wanted to use a more expensive oil such as almond or walnut oil to make it more economical, especially when sauteing or in high temp cookiing again, 50/50 more or less, depending on hw much or how little flavour of that oil you want to impart in your dish. 

    Then you can save those nicer oils for more pure applications such as salads.
     
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  8. french fries

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    For everyday cooking I use Grapeseed oil, sometimes olive oil.
     
  9. canadiandot

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    I like Safflower oil, personally.
     
  10. homemadecook

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5.4pt;mso-para-margin-top:0in;mso-para-margin-right:0in;mso-para-margin-bottom:10.0pt;mso-para-margin-left:0in;line-height:115%;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;}</style><![endif] considered , Must of the cooking oil is good bad some also are bad but it depend how/where u used this . There are some tips that i share base of what i have known . Oils are low in saturated fats and trans fats Some have high concentration of monounsaturated fats such as olive oil. Choose corn oil, safflower oil, sunflower oil, soy oil or canola oil if you wish to fry foods as these oils have higher smoke point. It is best not to fry with olive oil as its smoke point is only about 190C/375F.
    The following bad oils contain high percentage of trans fat or saturated fats. Some, such as coconut oil, even contain more saturated fats than animal products.
     
  11. schmoozer

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    OK, thanks guys.  I'll see about getting some good safflower or sunflower oil today.  I was leaning in that direction anyway, and you've helped me make a final secision.
     
  12. coulis-o

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    sunflower oil or vegetable oil is my choice of cooking oil.

    i often fry with butter with added oil so that the butter doesn't burn.
     
  13. missyjean

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    XVOO is not supposed to be heated.  It is used as a dressing. In all of Rachel Ray's books, she cooks with "EVOO" and that is why I don't buy her books.
     
  14. boar_d_laze

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    A lot of people cook with EVOO, me among them.  It may not be appropriate for deep frying, but it does a lot of things well -- including sautes.

    Still any reason that keeps you away from Rachel Ray is a good one.

    BDL
     
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    I have read that rice bran oil has about the least amount of flavor to impart, and the highest smoke point of any oil.

    Only problem is... I have never seen it for sale.

    Any experience or ideas?

    Mike
     
  16. schmoozer

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    Hi Mike,  I think there may be some info about rice bran oil on my other computer.  It's been a while since I've looked at it, but I'll check on Tuesday when I get to the other machine.
     
  17. schmoozer

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    XVOO is just fine for sauté and other cooking where the temp isn't above the smoke point.  Lots of chefs use it with good results.  You might want to try it some time and see the results.

    Now there are some XVOO oils that I don't use for cooking because their flavor profile is ideal for salads and finishing.  It's like using a top tier wine for cooking.  It's not that you can't cook with it, but why waste it in a situation where the flavors and nuances get lost in the cooking process?

    Try poaching some fish in a nice, flavorful XVOO ...
     
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  18. gerdosh

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    I have always been using flavorless oils with high smoke points, including canola. Sunflower, safflower, corn, soybean and peanut oils all worked well for me. I wouldn't waste my money sauteing in expensive oils (like grape seed or avocado) but would use them as finishing oils or in salad dressings.

    (Author of What Recipes Don't Tell You)
     
  19. missyjean

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    I believe you that it tastes good. However, I am into food for health and heating XVOO is discouraged by many credible naturalists pioneers, including Udo Erasmus, author of 'Fats That Heal Fats That Kill'.  XVOO is a very unstable oil which, when heated, can lead to oxidative hits causing cell membrane damage and DNA alterations.  I highly recommend this book
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    http://www.udoerasmus.com/fatsmain.htm

     
  20. schmoozer

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    I have read exactly the opposite, that heating causes no problems.   I won't say the same for overheating because I personally don't know.  However, people have been cooking with olive oil for thousands of years, and in Mediteranean countries like Greece, Italy, Turkey, etc., some of the healthiest and longest lived people are found - and they are certainly no strangers to cooking with olive oil.  Like you, I try to eat in a healthy manner, and olive oil is part of my healthy diet.

    If you're happy and comfortable not using olive oil for cooking, far be it from me to try to dissuade you from your beliefs, and I certainly don't want to start an argument.  There are many ways to eat and live ... mine includes good olive oil and yours doesn't.  Just out of curiosity, what cooking oils do you use, and what temps to you use them at?
     
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