Hello, I don't know much about baking. I tried to make challah yesterday, this is pretty close to the recipe I used: http://www.abreadaday.com/challah/ Once all was put together, it was too wet. I added more flour. Once all together and holding a ball, I kneaded with the dough hook on my mixer for 6 minutes. I did not get the windowpane. I did another 6 minutes and still could not get a windowpane, so I ignored that. The dough was very tight I should also note that i had one ball around the hook and a longer peice that never really joined together in the mixer. I manually joined that separate piece and formed it into a boule, placed in a oiled bowl and rolled it in the oil. After the first rise in the oiled bowl, you are supposed to briefly knead/fold it again to degas and then reform into a boule. However, when attempting to hand kneed, the dough would not stick to its self... so each time i pressed and folded, the fold would not hold together, no matter how hard i pushed. This made forming it into a boule nearly impossible... i just had to squeeze the seams to the bottom, but they didn't hold there. I have a feeling the oil from the bowl may have prevented this from occurring... or was my dough too dry? or something else I am not thinking of? Looking forward to feedback and what I might have done wrong that didn't allow the dough to kneed into its self after the first rise. Thanks.