baking flour, difference my imagination?

Discussion in 'Food & Cooking' started by susiebaker, Nov 28, 2010.

  1. susiebaker

    susiebaker

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    Just wondering if there is a difference with king arthur's unbleached all purpose flour and regular bleach flour?  I made my cookies and everyone loved them.  Then, I thought I would try king arthur's flour.  They came out very thin and greasy.  Is there a secret about flours I don't know about or a rule in general?  Any help or advice would be appreciated.
     
  2. kcz

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    Bleached flour and unbleached AP flour are not the same.  Some bakers prefer the bleached flour for cookies to control spread.  There are several possible reasons for your dissimilar results.  First of all, the bleach will react with gluten to toughen the dough...this keeps cookies from spreading as much.  Second, bleached flour is often bleached to hide inferior flour.  Third, there may be a significant difference in the protein content of the 2 flours you used.  Fourth, if your recipe uses butter, the bleach binds to the butter and distributes it differently throughout the dough, which may explain the greasiness of your second batch of cookies.

    And that is the extent of my knowledge about bleached flour.  HTH.  /img/vbsmilies/smilies/smile.gif
     
  3. kyheirloomer

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    I don't understand what you mean by regular bleach flour? 

    Generally speaking, there are three types of wheat flour used in America: Pastry flour, all-purpose flour, and bread flour. They are defined by the percentage of gluten-forming proteins. Sometimes their intended purpose determines the fineness of the grind as well.

    Pastry flour (which is also ground very fine) is made from soft wheat, and has a comparatively low protein level. Bread flour is high in protein (as is it's related "high gluten flour"), ground from hard winter wheat. All purpose is, for most practical purposes, a combination of the two.

    There are, to be sure, geographic differences. In the South, for instance, all flours tend to be softer than in the rest of the country. And there are some differences depending on the particular mill. KA unbleached all-purpose flour, for instance, is said to be equal to Gold Medal bread flour. And that could be why your cookies came out different; a difference, as KCZ points out, in protein levels.

    Bleached or unbleached has to do with an additional process, which, among other things, removes the beta-carotene content of the flour (and, with it, some of the nutritional value). Unbleached is particularly important for bread making, because the beta-carotene adds both color and a subtle flavor difference.

    For cookies, bleached or unbleached, per se, shouldn't make a significant difference in the outcome.

    The important thing is to realize that not all flours are created equal. Once you find one, for a particular purpose, that you are happy with, it's best to stick with it.
     
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  4. kyheirloomer

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    BTW, Susie, welcome to Cheftalk. Didn't realize this was your first post.

    Something else to consider: While you believe you did everything the same, flour reacts to ambient conditions. Humidity, especially, makes it absorb more or less liquid. One possibility is that your second batch was actually more hydrated than the first. In plain English, it would have been looser, because it contained more liquid.

    We've had several discussions about various flours, and how they react. You might want to use the search function and read over some of them. Perhaps you'll find some insights there.