I'm new to this nice forum, and have been enjoying reading various reviews from BDL and others and the article on Japanese Knives 101 by Chris Lehrer etc. Its been fun reading and researching this material, which is a bit daunting on first exposure. Anyhow... I had bought an electric chef's choice sharpener online, but didn't really like it. Though it worked pretty well, it seemed to dull the tips and was kind of burpy / noisy and burnished the sides etc. So...after reading around this forum, I recently I ordered a Edge Pro "essential" kit from CKtG. It has the basic Shapton glass stones which are the 500, 1000 and 4000 grits, which I hope will do me fine with my Sabatier carbons - which I absolutely love. 1. So here is my first query... I know I will be sharpening some friend's really dull knives. So I also ordered a couple of Edge Pro OEM 220 grits, thinking they were course grits and hearing from Mark that they don't last that long. But now I have read that the Edge Pro stones are rated on a different scale, so that is really just a medium grit stone, right? So would it be smarter to get the course DMT 6" that fits on the EP? Or what might you recommend to get a decent bevel started on my friend's scary dull knives? (I have a DMT "Duosharp" course blocks, but its the 8" x 2 & 5/8" and I don't think it would fit on the Edge Pro. And I don't want to waste time with starting the wrong bevel angle free hand anyhow...) What do ya think?? 2. My second question. Just to make it easier, when I first sharpen up my new carbon Sabatiers, does anyone know what the factory bevel is? I'm guessing its in the 18 to 20 degree range, but I haven't a clue. They are already pretty sharp and so I don't want to change to a new bevel and make more work than necessary. Also, I use a polished F-Dick's Packhouse steel, which seems to work great the few times I have gently steeled any of the Sabs (or other knives for that matter). Any opinions on this steel? Thanks in advance to anyone helping with these questions. And thanks for all the great reviews and posts and articles etc. by BDL , Phaedrus, Chris Lehrer and others. Its been great reading, and well written too!